Coyote Way wrote:I guess I was queuing in more on the "safety" aspects, water-borne illness aside, you're all of course dead on (pun intended). YOu may temper my remark as the result of a 60+year resistance to g'ubmint regulation as a substitute for common sense. Although my Amish and non-Amish neighbors in the '60's, and still to this day I'm sure, had no issues with the privy. Of course, they had the good sense and basic understanding of the biology to make sure it was downhill from the well and away from any springs. This has to raise the question of whether the good folks of 1620 had the common sense to make the association between where they pooped and where they ate (or drank). Is there a Cultural Anthropologist in the house?
Burra Maluca wrote:I suspect that the health and safety stuff was because the people in the experiment were workers rather than volunteers. The UK is a bit anally-retentive like that.
Burra Maluca wrote:I was absolutely enthralled with it myself.
I loved Arthur and Lancelot, the two English Longhorn oxen they used for the ploughing, and the close-ups of the period wooden plough they were using. A lot of the other stuff they used, like the cauldron, the wooden tray for raising the dough, the stone buildings for the pigs, using baskets tied by the handles and thrown over the horse's back, are things that I still see going on in Portugal. Those cauldrons are still readily available in the markets. I bought one for making bone sauce and had to pretend I was going to use it for cooking food 'for the animals' in it as my Portuguese wasn't really up to explaining about using them to pyrolyse old bones, and the wooden trays are still made too. I'm glad to say the ploughs have been improved since then - mine looks much more effective than that wooden one.
I loved watching Blackthorn, the Fell pony, harrowing with a hawthorne branch to cover the wheat seed. Hawthorne is a better choice than blackthorn (the tree, not the horse) as the spines on blackthorn are mildly toxic and can cause nasty reactions so you won't want to be handling them too much.
I'm going to go and find threads on all those things and put links to the video in them, then start on Episode 2!
Tyler Ludens wrote:A little cholera or typhoid, anyone?
Max Kennedy wrote:seems the video's linked to have been removed by the owner. Pity.
Abe Connally wrote:a lot of health issues that seem common sense today were major issues in 1620. Breaking your leg could mean death, or at the very least, crippled for life. Dental problems often led to death. Infection was a major killer. And it had less to do with hygiene than modern medical advances (antibiotics).
That's one of the reasons the life expectancy was so slow.
These types of re-enactments are entertaining, for sure, but they are far from accurate. Disease and death were very much a part of daily life.
Glyn Tutt wrote:Great videos, but some of teh 'challenge' of living and surviving a year on a 17th century farm were lost on me within the first 5 minutes when teh narrator explained that "due to 20th Century Health and Safety Laws they could not stay overnight on the farm".
Cj Verde wrote:I'm a little surprised that this hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet, but there are several other documentaries by this same group:
and... one I haven't watched yet secrets of the castle.
I think I made threads for the "farm" ones. I like them even better than Tales from the Green Valley! Pretty sure they actually live on site in those other ones too.
I love how this is cross posted to 6 different forums & could probably go in others too (critters for example).