do NOT use plastic

from https://permies.com/wiki/102544/pep-food-prep-preservation/PEP-Badge-Food-Prep-Preservation

The following are strictly forbidden:

- Aluminum cookware
- Teflon and similar materials
- Microwave ovens
- Plastic touching the food, including cooking utensils and zip lock bags

Apparently there are a lot of submissions that have plastic.  We will be going through and un-approving those.  And for the people that errantly approved them there will be a BBV penalty.  

It is probably going to cost me money to have the software modified to accommodate solving this mess.

It would be handy if the peppers that made the approving boo boo could lend a hand in getting this all sorted.

Some of us are eating plastic so turtles don’t have to. 😂

This could be challenging in one regard. I think that the metal lids used for glass canning jars have an inside coating that appears to be plastic. Thoughts?

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:This could be challenging in one regard. I think that the metal lids used for glass canning jars have an inside coating that appears to be plastic. Thoughts?

But the rubberized seal never touches the food.  It forms a seal with the glass jar.

I got rid of my microwave a while back but I'm still a slave to plastic.

Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:This could be challenging in one regard. I think that the metal lids used for glass canning jars have an inside coating that appears to be plastic. Thoughts?

But the rubberized seal never touches the food.  It forms a seal with the glass jar.

The plastic overlaps both sides of the glass lip so it does contact the contents.

Bob Tretick wrote:

Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:This could be challenging in one regard. I think that the metal lids used for glass canning jars have an inside coating that appears to be plastic. Thoughts?

But the rubberized seal never touches the food.  It forms a seal with the glass jar.

The plastic overlaps both sides of the glass lip so it does contact the contents.

A good practice is to never fill the jar to the top, to leave some (at least 1/2 inch) of free space.
A good practice is to wipe a rim of the glass before sealing it to make sure that it is dry.
If your food is on the glass rim during sealing process, that increases risk of spoilage.
Unless you put jars upside-down for a period of cooling down, or shake them, there is no way food touches inside coating of the lid.

The no plastic touching food is a great thought exersize whether we can accomplish it or not.
(and whether we are going for badge bits or not)

It's good to be that mindful of materials.
One's more practical choices might be otherwise but I think it's important to make the choice conscious and aware.

I'm interested to see the entries following these guidelines and hoping for some more innovative ways around any plastic use.


I just finished jarring up a large Azure order and for some reason, lately, a few of their 5# bulk items come in plastic lined paper?  I've always appreciated their plain paper packaging and now don't know what to do with these bags.
...and of course, all of my glass gallon jars down to the one pint peanutbutter have lids with plastic 'rubber' seals.

We are talking specifically about the requirements for PEP bb submissions.

Every canning manual I read says the food shouldn't touch the lid.  Ample head space, don't tilt the jars as they go in and out of the canner, store uprigt.  That sort of thing.

Humans often do their own thing on their own time.  But for the bb submission, it would be good to show it was done correctly.

r ransom wrote:We are talking specifically about the requirements for PEP bb submissions.

I was looking at the PEP BB cook soup,... submission from this this morning. The first three pages of this topic have food being prepared on plastic cutting boards in 11 pictures with the first instance being approved by paul wheaton? Does this mean food can be prepared on plastic cutting boards but not used anywhere else?  

Bob Tretick wrote:

r ransom wrote:We are talking specifically about the requirements for PEP bb submissions.

I was looking at the PEP BB cook soup,... submission from this this morning. The first three pages of this topic have food being prepared on plastic cutting boards in 11 pictures with the first instance being approved by paul wheaton? Does this mean food can be prepared on plastic cutting boards but not used anywhere else?  

No.

paul wheaton wrote:Apparently there are a lot of submissions that have plastic.  We will be going through and un-approving those.  And for the people that errantly approved them there will be a BBV penalty.  

Follow the requirements for the bb, not what others have gotten away with.

Got away with for now.

On canning lids:

https://www.rrc.k-state.edu/preservation/doc/Canning%20Lids%20101.pdf

As noted the problem with latex (natural rubber) was that it needed to be softened. It also tended to crack with age, allowing air into the jar. Plastisol is basically PVC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastisol

I don't know how you get around that, unless you buy latex goop and make your own sealers.