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Potato Towers

 
John C Daley
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A very clever Amish trick
 
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Hi John,
Interesting information, did you try it yourself? What are your results?
 
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Bill Whitson is kind of a potato expert and wrote an article (with contradictory findings) you might find interesting about this a few years ago: https://www.cultivariable.com/potato-towers/
 
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Nynke, no I have not, I never seem to get going with any vegetable planting, which is why I thought the tower was clever.
Christopher, thank you for the surprising counter case for the towers.
For those not inclined to look up Chris's referenec
HERE IS SOME OF IT
'I want to clarify exactly what I mean by “doesn’t work.”  I always get some angry responses when I claim that towers don’t work.
I am not saying that you can’t grow potatoes in a tower or even that you can’t get good yields in a tower.
I am saying that you won’t get better results with a tower than you can obtain under similar growing conditions without the additional levels of hilling.
 You will almost certainly get worse results with a tower if you do perform all that additional hilling.
(Growing conditions vary, and in some climates it might still work out for you, but it will be success in spite of your efforts.)  
It is specifically the claim that towers are able to produce greater yields due to the production of more layers of tubers that is wrong. '
ALSO;
Hilling up much beyond six inches brings no benefits and is likely to reduce yield.
The purpose of hilling is not to stimulate production of tubers, but to protect the tubers from the environment.
Potato yield is primarily limited by foliage area, not by the amount of soil above the seed tuber.
Indeterminate (late) potatoes do not form tubers in a different way than determinate (early/mid) potatoes.  They just grow longer.
Conventional container growing works fine with potatoes but potato towers don’t work.

So I am guessing at the moment and will look for more evidence.
 
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This Preppers video, shows them working;
Its starts at 7.41 minutes
 
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Hi John,

Like you, I want potato towers to work, but never really gave it a try. I did start a few times, but I never got past the first hilling. I have watched a lot of videos on this and learned something about the determined and indetermined varieties.
I think both video's you posted are verry interesting. The last one because it is so honest about failure.

What I noticed when watching the first video, was a large discrepancy between the text and the images provided. The dimension and specifically ratio's between dimensions were really off, just like the numbers (tekst says:"plant 4 potatoes", picture shows 5).
When I just look at the pictures in the video, I notice that they tell a completely different story:
1. It looks like new potatoes are planted at each layer;
2. The stems are horizontal in stead of vertical.
I wonder if there is some clue in this?

Christoffer's article seems reliable. The second video confirms it, especially the dryness of the tower despite irrigation. Personally, I can confirm their positive experience with volunteer potatoes.

However if the dryness can be solved e.g. in a different climate, or a different type of tower; and new potatoes are placed at each layer, near the center; and the stems are trained horizontal, towards the outside of the tower, it might be a way to grow a more potatoes on a small footprint though. Because they grow above ground, they are easy to harvest. Maybe I will give it a try this year. If so, I will post the results here.
 
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I have tried towers. Results were not spectacular, but they sure were easy to harvest! And they left me with nicely amended soil.
 
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