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!!!! Feature Request: Show PEP requirements when certifying a BB

 
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Opalyn made a suggestion for improving the certification process for PEP BBs.  Paul and I chatted about it and he had an idea for a way to make it potentially super cool.  

The thought would be to add some fancy code (brackets and slashes) inside each BB that would tell the software exactly where the Minimum Requirements and Documentation steps are.  Then the software can pluck that info out and display it in the blue certification field for posts awaiting certification.  That way when you find a certification request, the info is all right there and you don't have to go back to the first page to remind yourself of the requirements.

One huge downside is that someone would have to go edit every BB to add these bracket thingies.  It would be easy but a dauntingly large project.

I use a computer to interact with permies and I think this would save me a lot of clicking and scrolling.  I don't know how certifiers do this on phones.  

Please weigh in on if you think this would be worth dedicating effort towards.

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That's one of the things that reduce my approving BBs.  What are the requirements?  Scroll to the top.  Okay, remember the list of items.  Scroll down.  Yep, they got the first one.  Wait, what was the second again?  Scroll up...

...did they do the first one?  What was the first one again?  

My brain is poor at this stuff.

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I love this solution!

I offer to dedicate at least an hour a week making the changes required to make this happen!

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I'm happy to help.

Do you have a master list of BBs? I know the spreadsheet exists but it doesn't look to up to date. A column could be added to this for volunteers to tick which bbs have been updated.

Also who has permissions to edit the BB wikis?
 
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For those (if any) who approve BBs on mobile, would this help?

Great question James, getting the software jiggled to grant wiki edit access to the right folks is another hurdle...  

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Mike Haasl wrote:For those (if any) who approve BBs on mobile, would this help?



YES!!!  
I often get an email that someone has replied to a post I watch and only have my tablet or phone handy.  If I only have my phone, I don't even try to certify!

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Another reason this is a good idea is that it will give folks a check list to make sure they are fulfilling all the requirements when they submit their BBs.

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Actually, as presented, it wouldn't do that.  This would just pop it up in the blue field for the certifiers to see.  

But once the [code tags thingies} are in there, it could be used for other things.  Maybe a button for "check requirements" that you can click on before hitting submit....

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Mike Haasl wrote:Actually, as presented, it wouldn't do that.  This would just pop it up in the blue field for the certifiers to see.



Okay, I see. I'm having a hard time translating the words into a visual image. I definitely agree this would be wonderful for certifiers.

But once the [code tags thingies} are in there, it could be used for other things.  Maybe a button for "check requirements" that you can click on before hitting submit....



If they will! I was thinking of this one, first submission right below the requirements. The requirements specify three photos (before, during, and after) but only one was submitted!

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Oh, M actually did three photos and stitched them together into one image to save permies.com some bandwidth.  

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Silly me! All my brain registered was a band of green. So, nothing is functioning well this morning. I either need another cup of coffee or go back to bed!

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If there were a series of tick and flick sheets with, where required, attach evidence here box the system would be very easy.  I am really confused about the intricacies of the whole BB PEP and SHIP thing but am working on getting my head around it.  
Participants could use the tick sheet and when they get to the bottom it is a matter of self certification.  The certifiers would then become verifiers.  Once verified, then the dicky bit can be awarded.
Self certification on line means that all the "I"s are dotted and the "T"s crossed and until that is done, the certification form cannot be submitted (by design).  It also means that the verifiers are only looking at the evidence, not wading through mounds of paperwork.
The best part about this is that the participants have a fabulous portfolio of their work that demonstrates to others their permies prowess.
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