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Skyler Weber wrote:I want the soil so dark, organic and stable that archaeologists dig it up thousands of years later and argue about its origin.
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Phil Stevens wrote:When it comes to the big picture, I want to see biochar talked about -- and put into action -- instead of all the whizzy, shiny, expensive and (in my view) pointless industrial "carbon capture" technology that grabs headlines and soaks up huge investment from oil companies and airlines.
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Greg Martin wrote:10% by volume, 6 feet deep across my full 12 acres.
OK, that's my dream, but most of my land is in forest so I'll just be happy to top dress it every decade.
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John Suavecito wrote:I'm no rancher, but I would think that goats would be more effective than cows at eating brush.
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Mary Combs wrote:You'd be surprised at how much brush cows will take in, when they get bored with grass. The brush probably provides other nutrients as well.
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
Mary Combs wrote:You'd be surprised at how much brush cows will take in, when they get bored with grass. The brush probably provides other nutrients as well.
Yes, cattle reduce underbrush. They will tear off young leaves and new growth from trees and saplings. What they don't eat they will rub against or trample. The downside is that native plant cover like wild strawberries is also destroyed; I used to fell trees to create no-go zones -- islands where native plants could thrive.
Mike Farmer wrote:
Phil Stevens wrote:When it comes to the big picture, I want to see biochar talked about -- and put into action -- instead of all the whizzy, shiny, expensive and (in my view) pointless industrial "carbon capture" technology that grabs headlines and soaks up huge investment from oil companies and airlines.
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I don't know if it's government who should step in, or big business, or something else. Certainly don't want a political discussion about that. I will say that when I see really rich owners of massive amounts of US farmland like Bill Gates worrying about climate and talking about lab-grown meat from his private jet, it does make me a little nuts. There's a guy who could jump-start the biochar industry in a major way! Anyone got his number?
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Derek Thille wrote:
I agree that it makes more sense to incorporate more "low tech" solutions. I think we'd be better off with more, smaller, local entrepreneurial solutions in most respect than leaving it to the big boys. I did 13 years time in the Canadian federal government and it got to be too much inefficiency and bureaucracy for this son of a farmer. Also, when solutions are more local, we reduce shipping of both biomass and the char and, if is it loaded up into biochar then the microbes involved are more locally correct / adapted. That also plays to the permaculture principle of using small and slow solutions.
Mike Farmer wrote:
One thing I've love to see is some kind of reasonably priced, preferably mobile units that would allow for some scaling. Maybe something the size of a 20' shipping container or similar. High volume without being industrial scale.
Last weekend, I took a stroll in the woods with the kids. At one point, we were on a long, paved road into the wildlife preserve. If you collected just the deadfall from within say 50 feet of the road and dragged it to the road for processing, you could likely spend a summer just in that one small spot in one small town in the smallest state in the US. More capacity would make it go quicker.
Phil Stevens wrote:Mike, that's like the holy grail of dispersed production and I would love to see it happening by default. I think for most situations a big limiting factor will be water availability. In the "medium tech" department there are two useful ways I see this technology developing. One is with the mobile container as retort: Line the interior with refractory and fill it up with biomass, then light it and control the airflow, TLUD-style or via some other means. A lot of the designs use interior vessels and sacrificial feedstock. You don't need water to quench if you can let it cool in place.
The other direction is the air curtain burner. There's a unit called the Char Boss that is towable and can go through several tons a day. Ben Zumeta talks about it in this thread. The same company makes bigger, container-sized units, and another vendor has one called the Tiger Cat. The Char Boss uses water to quench in a continuous process. Not sure about the Tiger Cat.
Then, there's low tech. Pits and trenches, vessels like Kelpie Wilson's Ring of Fire, or a steel tank cut in half flipped like a turtle when the burn of complete. All these methods can be used without the need for large volumes of water to quench.
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Cade Johnson wrote:I like that people are considering the climate issue with biochar. But I should mention that experts are saying we need to be sequestering carbon at a rate of tens of gigatonnes per year by mid-century. At best, biochar yield from wood is about 20% by weight, though it is theoretically possible to do better. Although the density of wood varies quite a bit, a dry cord weighs around 1-2 tons - say 1.5 ton average? And let's be generous and pretend that is a metric tonne. So if we did all the carbon sequestering with biochar (which we won't), and did it all with cordwood; we have 10 Gt/year x 5 tonne biomass/1 tonne char x 1 cord/1.5 tonne = 33 gigacords - or about 99 cords of wood per year for each person in the US. That is why I said earlier, we can't make too much. I'll make what I can but if I convert more than ONE cord per year, I will be impressed.
Cade Johnson wrote:But I think biochar will eventually be industrialized - the pyrolysis gas we burn to make the char will become too valuable to burn. It will become the replacement for petroleum that chemical industries will need to make all the chemicals the modern world has come to demand. Although we can all cut back on plastics, broader society will find it hard to give up paint, detergents, medicines, etc.
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