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My mom's friend had a greenhouse that I loved when I was growing up.  It wasn't fancy, or super big. It was your basic greenhouse with opening windows starting about waist high, a glass roof and a wooden bench on 3 side.  I always wanted one.  I live in California now ( grew up in Washington state) so a greenhouse is a luxury, not a necessity.  
a few years ago my daughter bought me a small walk in green house for my birthday. The metal kind with the plastic cover.  I enjoyed it very much.  unfortunately the sun ruined the plastic cover in one year.  I built a cheap wood frame around the metal and attached plastic. made a door and a window.  It lasted 2 to 3 months. I had used heavy plastic, but not greenhouse plastic.  I was trying to figure out a fix that I could afford, because, even though I didn't need it, I really enjoyed it.  My son said to me lets build a real greenhouse.  I said this one was fine for my needs, and I just couldn't afford it.  Not to mention I don't know hot to build a greenhouse.  He said he would pay for the materials and knew enough that we could build it.  
One weekend he brings home the materials to start the greenhouse. (a couple of years ago)   It was so exciting. The frame went up super quick. It looked good to me, and I enjoyed working on the project together.  He wanted quite large and I reeled him in. It's a luxury, so keeping it small was less expensive, and should be faster to build. It ended up being about 6 1/2' long, by 5' 10" wide and 6 1/2' tall. My son got a used aluminum window from my nephew, so we made a place for it.   The plan was to use the highest quality greenhouse plastic we could afford. The dream was to use old windows, but I guess that's a lot of peoples dream, because I had a very hard time finding any, and the ones I did find were quite expensive.  About the time I was going to order the plastic my sister-in-law comes over and seeing my greenhouse offers me some glass no one wants at her work.  I'm so excited, now this is more like it.  Once I get the glass, I have a new problem.  It's not regular glass.  I think it's the stuff you use for making shower doors and such. It's like a 1/4" thick and patterned on both sides.  It's all different sizes and cutting it is going to be a major problem.  In the mean time my son and I make the roof frame. He wanted to make it straight up from one side and slope down to the other wall. I didn't want that kind of roof I wanted a A frame roof.  I got my way, but I didn't get much help.  I learned a bird beak looks very simple to do when watching on youtube, but I totally suck at it, no matter how hard I tried.  I paint the frame, and it sit this way for quite some time.  I'm trying to figure how I'm going to cut the glass, and life gets in the way, and a project I don't need keeps getting put on the back burner.
At some point I realize I'm not going to have enough glass, and put up corrugated steel on the bottom 2'.  Then my nephew offers me a set of sliding glass doors.  At first my son didn't want to use them because he was sure they weren't safe, but they had the safety glass mark. They made a great roof, almost like it was made for them.  My nephew ended up giving me  3 sets of glass doors. One set for the roof and one set on the south and one on the north side(I removed the steel, because I didn't need it).  My youngest son rigged a circular saw with a tile cutting blade I bought on clearance years ago and a tube attached to a garden hose. He put the glass on foam and I was able to cut the glass.  It wasn't perfect, and I would be soaked by the end of cutting, but it did the job.  I made 8 small window frames. Two that can open.  There are lots of mistakes, but I'm very proud of them just the same.  My sister-in-law bought a glass door for her other sister's house at habitat for humanity.  She didn't want it so I got that too. At this point it's finally starting to come together.
My husbands very tall and my kids are all tall, so my oldest son likes to tease me. The space under the window frame was a large square and he asked if that was my hobbit door.  So of Couse I decided to do just that.  It was a challenge, but a great deal of fun.
The inside needed shelves.  I started with waist high and a shelf between that and the ground on the south side and one waist high on the north side. They are made out of 2X4's on the south and 2X3 on the north (I was going to use 2X3 for everything, but my son felt it wasn't strong enough)  and 1/2" hardwire cloth.  I wanted another self above, because it seemed like a lot of waisted space, but I'm short and didn't want to have to use a stool. The solution was a narrow lighter built shelf on a pully system.  My son was sure it wouldn't work, but it works very well and I'm so glad I did it.  I can get 3 10/20 trays on them perfectly.  I made one for the north and south sides. My son bought pea gravel to put in the bottom of the greenhouse.  I used weed cloth around and under the greenhouse. It sits on a small cement foundation.  It started out just the 4 corners, but was problematic to fill the space from the ground to the bottom, so we ended up filling that space with cement.
A lot was learned on youtube and by trial and error.  If your a builder I'm sure you would shake your head and say these people did not know what they were doing.  I learned my son can do so much more then I knew. He also is amazing on a weekend project, but not great on a long term project.  This caused me a great deal of frustration, but it also pushed me to do things I never would have guessed I could do.  Everyone in the family lent a helping hand now and then, and that meant a lot to me.  Sometimes you look for a solution and someone else sees it right away.  I was trying to figure out how to fill the gap between the roof and the frame, and it occurred to me a 2X4 would fit, and it did. I was trying to figure out how to attach them and my husband said I should make a handle and not attach them and then they can be removed for ventilation. I did, and it works great.
There is one last thing that needs to be done. I was waiting for my son to do it, but I may have to recruit my younger son to help me finish it. The peek of the roof needs to have calking, and the metal needs to be installed to shed the water down and protect the frame from rain.  Other then that it's done, more than two years later, and too many plan changes to count.  I use it to over winter peppers successfully for the first time. I started a bunch of summer veggies/fruit/herbs in the house and took them to the greenhouse once they had a second leaf. I even started a bunch of seeds.  It worked great and I especially enjoyed spending time in it on the cold rainy days.
I'm incredibly proud of my greenhouse flaws and all. It's not at all what I dreamed of, but it's exactly right.
 
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I hope I didn't bore you with my greenhouse story. Here are the pictures to go with it. I was missing the North and South side of the greenhouse, plus it's just easier to post pictures from my phone.
I really enjoyed making the accessories for the hobbit door. The light is solar, and made from lots of household items. The hobbit doorknob I carved from a piece of firewood, and used aluminum can for the bottom.   The bricks are made of styrofoam.
I tried to recreate the door from the movie.  The original didn't have flowers on the hill behind the house, but my daughter encouraged me to paint them, because It fits me.
I love it, it brings me a lot of joy.
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Front of the greenhouse East side
Front of the greenhouse East side
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Hobbit door West side
Hobbit door West side
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South side
South side
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North side
North side
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Inside
Inside
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South side shelf top shelf up
South side shelf top shelf up
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South side top shelf down
South side top shelf down
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Light day
Light day
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Light at night
Light at night
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Hobbit doorknob
Hobbit doorknob
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Doorknob in the making
Doorknob in the making
 
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Jen,

Are you planning to use the greenhouse for germinating seeds in winter? Would it be warm enough in your location to do this?
 
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I love your greenhouse so much!
 
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I don't know what I can do with it in winter to be honest, but I can't wait to find out.  Summer is a no go.  I hope to get some shade cloth for the roof, so I will be able to use it longer.  When it was in the 80's here it was 109 in the greenhouse with the vents, all windows and the door propped open.

Thanks Tamara, it was definitely a labor of love.
 
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That looks like a really cool greenhouse!
 
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Hi Jen,
I was reading the other day that cucumbers like heat, and can stay inside hot greenhouses. Beyond that I do not know too much yet about greenhouses.
 
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I am deeply in love with your greenhouse!

I did the reverse journey -  Central Valley (CA) to Willamette Valley (OR).

All the years I lived down there I wanted a greenhouse, even though it would be fairly useless in the summer.  I visualized plant starts- perfect for that. But I bet over time ideas would float up for summer uses. I hope that happens for you.

I never did get a greenhouse. I still want one.
And now I know what it looks like, the thing that I want!
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Jen, I love the details you have put into your greenhouse - so cute! Well done!

The pulley shelf is awesome! What a great idea for using space up high.

Tell us about the flowers around the people door? Bought or made? They look really cheerful and I can imagine loads of places would be brightened year round by a few flowers like that.
 
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Thanks everyone for your lovely comments. Even though I was beginning to wonder if it would ever be finished, I'm incredibly happy with it.
I considered it an indulgent tool, but what I didn't know was how much I would enjoy spending time in it. On the winter days when it's windy and cold outside it was so nice to spend time in it. My husband said it was to small, and I said it was big enough for my needs. Between you and me I do wish it was a bit bigger. I could expand the East side with the door and metal flowers. For now I think I will build a small potting table in front of the hobbit door on the inside. The door does open, but I don't open it very often. A little table would give me a place to sit and work on garden tasks, and just enjoy the space.
Nancy the flowers are metal. One was on my first greenhouse door, a bunch of them I liked and had accumulated over the years and not used. There's a ridiculous amount on there. I put what I had up and it just wasn't right. I didn't want to spend much, so I searched for inexpensive ones. The small ones came from the 99 cents store that was going out of business, so I got a good deal. They were the flowers on metal stakes you put in the ground. I cut the stem off and screwed them on the wall.  It's too much, and make me laugh at myself, but you are right no matter the season it will be bright and cheerful.
Thanks
 
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Jen Fulkerson wrote:I considered it an indulgent tool, but what I didn't know was how much I would enjoy spending time in it.


Well, 'people care' is part of permacuture, so somewhere to sit, lie, pretend you'r working, and just chill is important.

Nancy the flowers are metal. One was on my first greenhouse door, a bunch of them I liked and had accumulated over the years and not used...... The small ones came from the 99 cents store that was going out of business, so I got a good deal. They were the flowers on metal stakes you put in the ground. I cut the stem off and screwed them on the wall.  It's too much, and make me laugh at myself, but you are right no matter the season it will be bright and cheerful.


Thanks for the explanation. I see giant butterflies sometimes fixed to people's houses here and thought maybe it was something similar.
 
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Of course now I have a bunch of metal flower stems with a couple of leaves on them.  I can't throw them away, that would be waist full. I've been wanting to make plant markers. I was thinking it might be cute to  use the stems to hold the markers.  
Unfortunately there's been a lot of unexpected things pop up, so the markers have to wait.
 
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Jen, that is absolutely beautiful!  

I started collecting glass with plans to make a cold frame but lately I've been wondering how much more I need for a small greenhouse.  

 
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I'm so glad you got it completed! It is a most charming greenhouse! I love the Hobbit door! Well done!
 
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Jen,

I love the greenhouse and the story behind it! Thanks so much for posting!
 
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Love the story and the greenhouse, and I love your quote even more!
Wonderful job and way to re-use otherwise wasted material.
 
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Michelle Heath wrote:Jen, that is absolutely beautiful!  

I started collecting glass with plans to make a cold frame but lately I've been wondering how much more I need for a small greenhouse.  



Keep in mind that you can design a greenhouse without glass on the north side, and less glass on the west side to reduce the amount of hot late day sun comes in.

Of course, that does depend on what you want to accomplish with the greenhouse and your local context.
 
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I love the way you decorated your green house. The flowers are so cute and that adorable hobbit door, Oh, My! Thank you for sharing.
 
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Your greenhouse is adorable and inspiring.  Thank you for posting it and your whole story about it. I want to build a greenhouse using windows that my friend has collected for many years and you gave me a great idea, to use the metal frame from the plastic greenhouse I have! I was thinking I'd build it right up against the south wall of my log cabin and kinda turn my whole house into a kinda earthship. Enjoy!
 
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