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Natural ways to regrow teeth--save thousands of dollars, avoid mercury/etc. and grief of dentist

 
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Rami Nagel wrote a book about oral health, and of course, the Weston A. Price book would be best looked at, along with Doug Simon's videos.

But for little bits of practical help, I go back to Katie, at WellnessMama, I use her toothpaste and tooth powder, and have done the oil pulling, changed my diet... I think the bone broth and the oil pulling can be good for gums especially...she has a remedy section on her site, and has articles in there about oral health. I had already had much loss, but have been able to postpone (weasel out of) more dentistry since beginning her general protocol for healthy teeth, gums, and and mouth.

After reading here, will be looking into the horsetail idea...thanks for sharing : )  
 
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Thank you, Xisca - I just looked at their website and it's a product to buy so no formula reveal! Dadgummit. Speaking of gums, Cris - would you share the "recipe" for your tooth powder? I've been mixing coconut oil, baking soda and peppermint EO. It's a little too much "salt" from the baking soda and it irritates my lips. Now I have a new problem...jeesh. But it sure does get my mouth clean!
 
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My dentist was really helpful and she told me that I was grinding my teeth again during my sleep, due to tension at work.  I started reusing my mouthguard and that has made a world of difference with my teeth.  Part of the deal is fitting it very precisely to my teeth so it doesn't affect my ability to sleep.  Also daily flossing is key because I eat so many green leafies and vegies that some, like celery, get stuck in my teeth.  I no longer feel that pain with cold or sour foods. Yay!
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I had a crown fall off years ago and did not want to get it replaced. I have read that 90% or so of crowned teeth eventually die.
I did a lot of research and found a guy( can't remember his name) who talked about how teeth are meant to remineralize given the proper oral environment. Saliva has minerals in it. However, most toothpaste has glycerin as an ingredient and glycerin coats the teeth and keeps the remineralization from occurring in cavities. So they just get bigger and bigger.
I thought to myself, wouldn't it be ironic if the very thing all dentists recommend us to use every day was keeping the natural process of remineralization from happening as it is supposed to? So I made up my own tooth powder and swore off toothpaste there and then.

Over time, the exposed raw tooth stub, started to "grow' a tough leathery coating. And no decay ever happened, even though it had no enamel on it from being ground down to place the crown years before. I had it checked out by a dentist who confirmed that it was protected by the remineralization. This stub did not "grow" back the tooth structure, but it does not seem to need another crown.


My teeth have been way healthier with no new cavities since quitting toothpaste 10 years ago! I used baking soda and salt for awhile but now I use a mineral powder that is not so salty. You can find a clay based toothpaste- glycerin -free- in the health food stores these days.
 
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My grandma didn't have cavities and she said they were really rare in her community when she was a girl.  (Of course, part of it may have been because they were dirt poor farmers in eastern Arizona and couldn't afford much sugar).  She said everyone there used salt or baking soda on a rag to brush their teeth.  One day when she was a girl, the school teacher brought in tooth brushes and tooth paste for everyone and explained their use.  At lunchtime all the kids ate the toothpaste (as a sweet) and went back to salt on a rag.  

I prefer baking soda.  I read a study years ago (probably in the 80'S) where they found it worked better than any toothpaste.
 
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Years before I knew better, I had a badly cracked molar. A root canal, and a few years later, a crown , were the result. It's been over 10 years, but this "dead" tooth still hurts. The dentist has shown me the x-rays that show then roots are gone; he believes it's referred pain from another tooth (or that I'm making it up, I think)..
Any ideas on this? I have two other cracked molars and don't want the same for them...

For the other molars, I have even considered extraction. But losing molars reduces one's chewing ability, besides letting teeth shift around. Becoming a haggle-toothed old crone is something I would like to avoid for a few more decades, at least.
 
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I recently noticed that my gums are receding. I don't know if this is from (1) not having the time/brain power to remember to brush in the morning due to having kids needing me constantly, (2) using a sonicare and not replacing the brush head every three months because they're stinkin' expensive, or (3) clenching my teeth because my kids broke the retainer for my bottom teeth, or (4) my teeth are shifting and exposing the tooth, because my kids broke my retainer, or (5) all of the above.

I don't want to go buying any fancy products, because no studies show they work, and I'm not spending money on some concoction that may or may not work...and might even end up damaging my teeth more. But, is there any way to regrow my gums with something I could make myself? I'm oil pulling again with coconut oil, to prevent further recession, but I would really like to reverse what is currently happening really, really quickly!
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:I recently noticed that my gums are receding.


my dentist told me it has to do with The Number (you know, that one on your drivers' license, the year you were born. It seems to be the bad guy in a lot of things in my life lately.....). Some things may accelerate it but receding gums seem rather inevitable. When my gums bother me (bleeding) I go back to oil pulling, but The Number also affects my remembering to oil pull in the morning...... when I do remember, it makes a world of difference, but it didn`t make my gums stretch up to cover where they used to (and quite honestly i don`t expect that to happen.).

(re The Number. I`m 45, not 85, and the gums seemed to start retreating a good 3 or 5 years ago)
 
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The two ways that I have been told that help combat, and in some cases reverse, receding gums, is to floss and brush them.

I brush the whole gum from where the roots of the teeth are to the top of the teeth. That in itself has cut in half the amount of tooth exposure due to receding gums. Honestly, massaging my gums and keeping plaque and food bits out from under the gumline, and avoiding other like instances that tend to cause inflammation are the things saving my gums and teeth.

I haven't yet tried oil pulling. Seems like something designed to absorb oil-soluble molecules in the mouth. I think I could find such a thing useful. Also, I love baking soda. I was wondering if a baking soda wash has measureable effect on the acidity of a person's mouth. As in, if an acidic mouth environment promotes more decay, does an alkaline environment defend against such?

I just need to get myself a giant bag of food-grade diatomaceous earth. It's really one of the only treatments that I haven't tried that I actually could, along with the use of aloe vera plant or comfrey.

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Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:My update--I have the hole in my tooth still, but it's been steady state for a year plus now.  Once or twice at some point a small chip did come off other teeth (front teeth--the one with the hole is the rearmost molar) when I poked them with a toothpick too hard, which indicates I still have some remineralization to do.  At some point there had been an additional tiny chip that came out of the hole, which I knew only because the gum hurt more from stuff pressing on it when I chewed, signifying something had become more exposed.  But overall not much of a problem.

I do have to pick stuff out of it.

I'm satisfied that it makes sense to wait and see what regrowth treatments become available.  I'm not in a hurry.

I'm glad I didn't go for the root canal, or the crown.  It just gives me the willies.  And I'm so glad for all I've learned about healing small cavities, and just how mutable teeth really are.

I clearly have some stuff to rebalance about my gut biome, tummy aches and such, and this can affect mouth biome too.  Not sure what to do--I do eat plenty of yogurt, home-made kefir, and pretty frequent sauerkraut.  Maybe I should do daily inulin (chicory root seems viable, I like adding a little to yogurt, and since it's dried it is easier to store than sunchoke roots).  Inulin is a 'prebiotic" that supplies bacteria that feed on it, whereas the human enzymes themselves don't digest it.  I have no specific knowledge that this is connected to teeth in particular, it's just another line of thought that seems likely to have some connection.

It's possible that I could rebuild the tooth with the comfrey/calcium thing if I did it longer, I'm not ruling that out.  There may be other factors that I didn't address.  I may need still more silica than the horsetail regimens I did gave me.  

There are accounts of people regrowing a tooth from scratch on some of the comments on some of these youtube videos--the comfrey one I believe.  





I'm curious, your cavities are on the outside and you have gut issues?
Don't know if it's okay to mention this but have you considered celiac disease?  
Similar issues here and celiac contributes to cavities on the outside (front) of the teeth which isn't where they normally form and the gut issues.
 
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I have noticed that my sensitive teeth feel stronger when I reduce grains/legumes, and drink more raw milk!

Also, would like to maintain some hope as there are animals that regenerate their "dead" tusks. Sometimes it doesn't make immediate sense, but it is still worth trying.
 
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When I go to the dentist, They always seem to be grinding down my teeth. It hurts during and for awhile afterwards.  Then I do my horsetail with hummus and it starts to heal again, so after awhile it doesn't hurt anymore...... until I go visit the dentist again.  Hmmmm.
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John Suavecito wrote:When I go to the dentist, They always seem to be grinding down my teeth. It hurts during and for awhile afterwards.  Then I do my horsetail with hummus and it starts to heal again, so after awhile it doesn't hurt anymore...... until I go visit the dentist again.  Hmmmm.
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Horsetail with hummus? Elaborate, please? 😁😁😁
 
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Two days after a root canal (my first) a few observations. My oral surgeon who performed the root canal showed me the infection. The issue was discovered at my dentist and apparently was due to a cracked molar that the dentist repaired 1 year ago. As the surgeon explained, once she got the root out she packed the tooth with antibiotic material and covered it temporarily and I am back in a week for the permanent cap. She pointed out that the area around the tooth will be replaced by growth of the jaw bone surrounding the tooth.

I’ve been fortunate as far as teeth, normal care all through my youth with a small number of fillings (I’ll leave off the issues with the almalgam used then. As an adult I ignored my teeth for twenty years, just daily brushing and slightly less than daily flossing. When I finally went to the dentist with a fair amount of trepidation, one filling was needed. In my late fifties had the wisdom teeth out, then no problems until a few fillings 5 years ago and the most recent issues.

One area I have become familiar with recently is the association of the glands and endocrine system as an early warning system. My glands in my neck had been acting up for weeks prior to my dental appointment with regular throbbing and a sensation akin to pain. I didn’t do anything as I was scheduled for an appointment and sure enough X-rays showed the infection. So coming out the other side I can better understand and remember that sensation in the glands that accompanied my tooth ache as an early warning system.

Not a fan of antibiotics, even though they saved my life twice (ok, a bit of a reluctant fan), but my new extended understanding of signals my body is putting out I went ahead and started the “just in case” run of prescribed antibiotics last night based on signals from my endocrine system that I now understand is the system fighting the infection. Probiotics here I come!
 
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As I said in an earlier post in this thread, the species is equisetum hyemale.  You dry it, and chop it up. I like to eat it in hummus because the horsetail is very dry and fibrous.  The hummus is yummy, smooth and creamy.  I don't mind eating it in the hummus. I don't know if I could get it down otherwise. Full details at chanchka.com
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