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Would you rather have an acre of mushroom cultivation or an acre of aquaponics?

 
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Another one from Timothy

Would you rather have an acre of mushroom cultivation or an acre of aquaponics?

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And since I only eat mushrooms that have been dried, ground into a powder, and put into a pill so I can take as a supplement... I'm going to pick the acre of aquaponics. Fish and plants I like.

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what is your goal with your crops? if your going to provide local chefs with quality unique fungi then that sounds great.  If you have the ability I would do both 1/2 and 1/2.
1/2 acre will produce an awful lot of fungi. with aquapoics is this with above ground tanks or are you digging a pond. a good pond, even a half acre will provide lots of fish and endless fresh water. when my dad had a fish farm the ponds were 1 acre each. they were big and produced lots of fish but the fish we ate came out of a very small pond near the house that was stocked with bass and shiners and it might have been an 1/8 of an acre and there was a seemingly endless supply of fish in it
 
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I would rather have an acre of mushrooms because mushrooms are so beneficial to human and soil.

Fish are nice though ...

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Neither.  I'd prefer aquaponics, but an acre is a full-time business, not homestead scale.
 
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I'd go with the mushrooms, I think I could market them if I had the opportunity.

I'd be worried about mistakes in aquaponics and the effort that would needed to be put in to be successful.

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Wow, this one is tough! With the aquaponics, though, I'm pretty sure I could turn it into a community project, so our whole neighborhood could benefit from both the fish and whatever else we plant. I love mushies, but a lot of people hate them. So, I'm going with the aquaponics, and I'll keep a small patch of mushies, for John & me.

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Depends on what type of mushrooms we're talking about...

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Even my grandest dreams with either direction are not an acre in size.(and trust me they are grand)  I will answer aquaponics.  But I probably should answer mushrooms as that would mean I had a huge cave(or other building) to build other stuff in eventually.

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I find the idea of chinampas utterly fascinating.

If chinampas qualify as aquaponics, I'd rather have aquaponics. If it's limited to using pumps and filters and electricity, I'd rather have an acre of mushroom cultivation.

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Oh, that's a tough one! But, I think I'd prefer the aquaponics. I do love me some mushies, but with the aquaponics, I could have fish, fruit, and veggies.

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Definitely the mushrooms. You can grow an awful lot of mushrooms in an acre - definitely enough to make a good income from. And you get a waste produce of used substrate blocks to grow your veggies with.

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My climate is just wrong for full time mushrooms, so I'll go for the aquaponics. Even if I grew a bunch of the greenery just to feed fresh to my birds, it would be the better option.

That said, I'd want to set it up the most permified way possible, as Sara's Chinampas picture demonstrates.

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Here is my aquaponics system, a small backyard setup. I have 3 plant trays, each 8 meters long and 1 meter wide. The system works using a drum filter and a biofilter from raufilter. I started aquaponics 4 years ago. Now my children and wife help me, and the farm is constantly growing and modernizing.
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Matt McSpadden wrote:Another one from Timothy

Would you rather have an acre of mushroom cultivation or an acre of aquaponics?


Mushrooms, so many yummy things to do with them!

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?mushrooms any day! They can get expensive, I've been microdosing for 6 months.
 
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