C Gallas wrote:Thanks for your comments.
I can certainly see the points about different bio regions here as well and you can take Mark Shepard's name and plug in Joel Salatin, Jean-Martin Fortier (more on annual organic crops), Eliot Coleman (annual cropping and greenhouse growing), Geoff Lawton, etc.
...but, I feel as if I've been paying attention to this space for over 10 years and there's alot of conferences, talks, online courses, videos, forums like this, books, etc but its just not reaching en mass and yet we seem to be at such a critical time in agriculture, ecosystem management, etc.
As Mark Shepard has mentioned on many talks, putting an herb spiral in isn't going to do much or feed you at all, yet that's probably the most implemented idea in permaculture.
Is this stuff just to complex for people to wrap their heads around? Would talking about perennial systems and dropping permaculture from the conversation help transition? I guess that's why I'm weary of spending money & time on a PDC, whereas you can probably learn alot from just doing / reading and implementing ideas in the two books of Edible Forest Gardens if you are focused on food production.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Even on this thread though, there are negative comments about big tractors, but people have not done the math very well. With my Kubota tractor, I burn 7 gallons per day tilling a 10 acre field that I got, and it takes 3 days to do. That is 21 gallons of fuel. Our huge 9684 New Holland tractor tills it in 20 minutes with is 33 foot disc harrow. We burn 1600 gallons of fuel planting just under 2000 acres of corn. Do the math, that is about 3/4 of a gallon of fuel per acre for the big tractor, and just over 2 gallons for the small Kubota. Big tractors are not fuel burners, they are actually incredibly efficient, but they sure do not look it.
James Landreth wrote:l. I know a man who makes $30,000 a year selling chestnuts from somewhere around 10-20 trees (they're about 20 years old). That's only one stream of income he's got going.
Not sure if it's me you think is being derogatory. I'm not. If I could buy a tractor that big, I would. We just don't do debt so we could likely never afford a big tractor. We just have to settle with our little one. It is a huge thing for commercial farmers though. Those things cost a fortune.
Ok so opinion question for you Travis. A farmer near us has plowed under his winter wheat. He's starting new rows going horizontal instead of vertical. I think he's going to plant hemp. It just became available here. How much money would you have to be able to make to plow under 640 acres of already growing wheat do you think? I'm excited watching this process I must admit.
wayne fajkus wrote:
Theres a saying i heard decades ago here in Texas :
"Plant a pecan tree when your child is born and that tree will pay for the childs college".
paul salvaterra wrote:i try to set 7 to 15 % of my land and time to trials, new things and well experimenting with methods and different varieties.
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