Travis Johnson wrote:I was wondering what people felt the ideal Homestead Size was?
Dale Hodgins wrote:For me this is pretty simple. The maximum amount of land I can get my hands on. That's because I'm looking to turn most of it into something that looks like native forest and I like the idea of a big buffer.
I am looking at the idea of purchasing land adjacent to government land that is highly degraded due to slash-and-burn agriculture. I want to have at least 25 acres that is deeded to us. Then I wouldn't mind having several thousand acres that belong to the government, but that I have a 50 to 100-year lease on. I will agree to turn a certain percentage of it into forest, probably 80% or so. The remaining land will be used for agriculture. When my lease runs out, they will be able to turn it into a park or they might decide to slash and burn it again, who knows.
There are government programs meant to get lots of native trees growing. When I find the right spot, I will present some sort of offer and either they will go for it or they won't. The only thing I'm really going to ask for is a good price on young tree starts that come from government-owned nurseries, and lifetime tax relief on that land. If I can get those two things, I'm willing to turn thousands of acres of scrubland into productive forest that will be suitable for many of the plants and animals that are becoming rare.
I'm looking to develop my portion as a farm but also a place for tourists to visit. I think lots of people would be interested in visiting a young forest that is being purposely created. There are many pioneer species that top 25 feet within 3 years, so we could be living in a forest pretty quickly.
My answer is 10,000 acres or so.
Nicole Alderman wrote:Having some really great neighbors who also have 5 acres, I enjoy the fact that I can go for a walk and say hello to my neighbors and help them out if they need it, and ask for help if I need it. After our recent bobcat attacks, a neighbor was so awesome and came and walked her dog down to our property and the dog left her scent everywhere. My kids got to play with her kids, and we all had a great time. I love that the older neighbor kids can ride their bike &/or quads to their friend's house to play. I love having that sense of community.
Of course, if my property was surrounded by housing developments on every side, or if I had really nasty neighbors, I'd sure want a LOT more than 5 acres. But since most everyone else has acres of land, I don't feel too crowded.
Dale Hodgins wrote:I think it's important to specify what it is you are trying to create. I have shown in my Dale's 3 Day Garden thread, that I can produce enough vegetables for 20 people on a quarter acre of land.
I want my new venture to be a commercial plantation with a dozen employees, surrounded by regenerating tropical forest. That takes a little more land.
Single family homestead or hobby farm, is really open to interpretation. I think lots of people could do it successfully on an acre of good land.
I prefer to see these smaller plots for most people who decide they want a hobby farm. That's because most parcels that I see between 1 to 5 acres, are pretty much taken out of food production, in favour of being more like a larger version of suburbia, with a horse and a couple goats. Some people just want space and a buffer from the outside world. Those are the ones I'd like to see build on scrubland. The Saanich Peninsula near Victoria has some of the best farmland in Canada. Much of it has been split into a little parcels that aren't farmed much. I think ideally, more people moving to the country, should mean more food production on the land they choose.
Dale Hodgins wrote:Some people just want space and a buffer from the outside world. Those are the ones I'd like to see build on scrubland.
Nicole Alderman wrote:Having some really great neighbors who also have 5 acres, I enjoy the fact that I can go for a walk and say hello to my neighbors..
bruce Fine wrote:where are you that raw land is worth nothing?