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This is a working thread for the team of PEPPERS working to create BBs for the PEP program.  

Here's a link to the thread for How to create a BB post.

Here are the badges currently in need of BBs:
Gardening
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Good to meet you all! Looking forward to this.

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OK team, I'm thinking we should start on the badges that have been updated a bit more recently.  Plus a few older badges that kind of follow the theme of the more recent badges.  So the ones to start with would likely be:

Gardening
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I'd specifically avoid Tool Care for now

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Hey Mike,

For gardening it looks like sand and straw are done. Do you want me to finish up wood?

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Sure!

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Okay. I will work on that for the remainder of the week! I'll let you know if I finish before.

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FYI, I just posted the brainstorming thread for Animal Care.  Once we get feedback from the greater community, we'll polish it up a bit more and make it official.  So don't create BBs for it yet

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PEP BB gardening.iron.hugelkultur - Build a 7 by 150 Hugelkultur - Done

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Awesome!  I threw some apples and pie at it   I changed a few things, basically making the requirements a bit larger to keep with the scale of the longer hugels.  I also went back to the Wood hugel one and made that a bit harder.  Things like bumping up the number of comfrey required from 3 plants to 150.  Overall it's great and thanks!

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Thanks Mike maybe check out this one too: Iron BB - Harvesting fruit from 12 Trees you planted from seed

I tried to make it a bit harder... but maybe not hard enough!

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PFF I forgot to make it a wiki! Thanks Mike. I need to go to bed apparently!

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Hee hee, I was going to mention that  No problem I have a way to turn posts into wikis with some magic buttons.  

I changed the requirements verbiage to the "standard-ish" blurb that goes like this:

To document your completion of the BB, provide proof of the following as pics or video (less than two minutes):



I forgot it on your hugel one but that's ok.  It's just a slick way to say photos or video are spiffy.

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I just did the Electrical Sand badges.

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Nice work Mike! And something I have zero experience in despite my Dad being an electrician.

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Youtube to the rescue

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After a chat with Paul and Ashley I realized I miscommunicated something above.  I just deleted it so that folks reading this in the future aren't confused.  

If you're creating a BB and there's a forum under SKIP for that badge (ie PEP Gardening or PEP Natural Building), put it into the correct forum.  If there isn't a forum for it yet, just stick it in the PEP forum and it will get individually moved over by some poor sap at a later time.

And if anyone wants to join the team of PEPPERS, we're always hiring so just post to this thread if you want to help out.  

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If you're creating a BB and there's a forum under SKIP for that badge (ie PEP Gardening or PEP Natural Building), put it into the correct forum.  If there isn't a forum for it yet, just stick it in the PEP forum and it will get individually moved over by some poor sap at a later time.  



So in the future, there'll be a PEP Sub-forum for each aspect?

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Yes, I think Raven was working on it a while back.  If anyone wants to create the remaining forums and maybe move everything over into them, that would be absolutely awesome!  Then as folks create them, they could go right into the correct spot.  I'm not sure if that someone would have to be on staff to do it or not...

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I can do that. I'm figuring out the 'create a new forum' stuff now. I think I've got tool care correct. QA Inspection? https://permies.com/f/400/pep-tool-care

Also; mind if I add the picture of the chili-peppers to this thread? My brain is key-ing off that picture, and keeps taking me to the wrong thread.

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That looks good to me  (QA Approved!).  If anyone else with knowledge of setting up forums wants to check it, please do so!

And yes, please steal the image if you want.

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Actually, I sent a link to R to see if she spots anything.  There could be other subtleties to keep in mind.  So maybe hold off on doing more until she weighs in.  Thanks!

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Agreed. Holding off.

For shuffling things around, do Badges and BB's only go in their "PEP-Aspect" forum, or do they still remain in the "PEP" forum as well?

Also; which (if any) belong in the wiki forums, Badges/BB's?

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I believe badges and BBs should have their "PEP-Aspect" as their primary forum.  The badges could probably be added to PEP but the BBs probably shouldn't be.  Then the PEP forum can stay smaller and not churn with all the BB submissions.

Badges and BBs should be wikis.  When creating them as wikis, they're automatically put in the wiki forum.  If any are turned into wikis later by staff, they don't automatically get cross posted into the wiki forum.  So yes, if you happen to see any that aren't in the wiki forum feel free to add them to that forum as well.

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Thanks. In researching this, I saw some BB's still in the main PEP forum. Ok for me to remove them from there?

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Mike Haasl wrote:OK team, I'm thinking we should start on the badges that have been updated a bit more recently.  Plus a few older badges that kind of follow the theme of the more recent badges.  So the ones to start with would likely be:

Gardening
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I'd specifically avoid Tool Care for now

Animal Care is nearly done and will have about 122 BBs in it :)



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No, I think I'm going to focus on the 'Community" one next!

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Mike Haasl wrote:OK team, I'm thinking we should start on the badges that have been updated a bit more recently.  Plus a few older badges that kind of follow the theme of the more recent badges.  So the ones to start with would likely be:

Gardening
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I'd specifically avoid Tool Care for now

Animal Care is nearly done and will have about 122 BBs in it :)



Is anybody working on the Homesteading one?



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Thank you. I will come back with questions.

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I did a little something different, added the aspect icon into the top white-space on the forum... The rest of the forum I followed the recipe.

We'll see if R is okay with it.

Also, if we're peppers, then I'm probably "Hatch."


Come to think of it, my Dad's name is Jack, so you could probably call me "Hatch Jackson."
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Forum question. Was there briefly a “cow” award functionality yesterday or the day before? In this possibly imagined scenario, did I become a Rancher or something?

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I'm thinking you're either imagining it or it was April 1st...

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I too was awarded a "cow" the other day, not april 1st.  What does this mean?

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Oh, they turned on the April Fools cow thing a bit early for the US so it actually happened in the evening of the 31st...

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I have a blister on my hand from carving spoooooooooon

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Ashley Cottonwood wrote:I have a blister on my hand from carving spoooooooooon



Oh no! Yeah, I was getting blisters from pushing the knife when I started in December, too.

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This is one of those times where having the right tools makes a world of difference.  Something curvy to do the bowl is really helpful.

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Hey Mike, is it safe to assume that all the Sand level Badges are stable?

I'm spotting a few with BB's that don't have threads yet (Food-Pressure Canning; Natural Medicine Decoctions), but I want to make sure they're not still in draft-form.

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Yes, if you see a BB in Sand that isn't a link (black text), it's safe to make a thread for it.  

If you see a BB in Straw, Wood or Iron, it's safe to make a BB thread for them too.  Just maybe prioritize the newer badges first:

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Foraging
Metalworking
Plumbing
Electrical
Homesteading



Liv has dibs on homesteading though so don't do that one.

I'll probably pick away at Electrical in my spare time...

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Alright. I'm going to comb through and make sure there's no Sand BB's missing.

Natural medicine has a different BB thread for each possible ingredient for a decoction. (Make a decoction is just one BB) Is that perhaps over-BB'd? Should that just be one BB thread, which then has different information for the possible ingredients?

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