.... What we lose in privacy, though, we gain in time - frequently the choice is to use a urinal right away or wait for a stall. Some do choose to wait, but most don't -- that's why men's room lines are much shorter.
paul wheaton wrote: So with the sideways factor - on a toilet, some of the issues are mitigated, but outside you could end up wetting your shoes, your leg, etc. Is that about right?
paul wheaton wrote:It is entirely inappropriate for me to bring this up.
And yet .... here I am doing it ....
Many women are less than comfortable peeing outside. If there is an indoor option and an outdoor option, and a request to pee outside (as many permaculture farms do) they will choose the indoor option.
Other women prefer to pee outside. Even if there is a preference that folks pee inside, they are passionate that pee is not to be wasted on a septic system.
I have attempted some gentle queries in this space. Although any query a man makes in this space is rude and obnoxious however gentle you attempt to make it. But I'm used to being rude and obnoxious, so I've gained some ground.
Let's say the gals that prefer indoors are group A and the gals that prefer outdoors are group B.
I asked some gals from group A "why?" The responses were mostly about it being messy and sometimes about the squatting position being tiring. And then there was something about what do you do with the bit of TP after.
And then I ran into a permaculture instructor from group B. I knew she would understand my obnoxious questions and roll with it like any other permaculture question.
In respect to messy: a little practice on aim and a little extra push (read: power pee) is the recipe.
I didn't think to ask about the other two and I should have.
I think that the world may be a better place if this .... awkward ... information is exchanged. Any chance that there are women from group B that are willing to share? And are there, perhaps, women from group A that might have more questions?
Olanga Jay wrote:For those who use your pee as the to expel bears, coyotes, and other large predators:
This works only if the urine is really richly scented and a lot of spilled on the territory.
To do this, save your urine all day (I use a large plastic bottle) and let evaporate to half or to one quarter.
It is easy to obtain in the sun or in a dry shed. In an urgent situation, you can evaporate urine on the stove.
When urine is concentrated, the smell is too, more pronounced. Gather a few of these bottles and spray on the border of your territory.
This will puzzle any predator! More productive if you spray on trees and bushes from the height of your chest down - to predators that will be a sign that you're not shorty! .. Then the animals do not come to meet you. Repeat this after heavy rains, so that they remember.
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