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Mark Reed wrote:

Nor that there are people who are afraid of or just don't like dogs and that those people have the right not be bothered by one, especially on their own property!

Yes, some owners really don't seem to get that. My son was *very* anxious around dogs as a child and the only reason he got over it was by us being very careful not to let that anxiety be reinforced. One day when the kids and I needed a change of scenery, I took them to a local beach. Apparently, that beach is an "off leash" area, but we were new to the area and it wasn't well signed. There was a lady with a large dog and when I asked her to please leash it, her response was, "don't worry, he won't hurt anyone". My son, who normally loved beaches, wouldn't move a foot away from me. Finally someone with her spoke up and she called the dog and moved further down the beach from the access. I don't think she leashed it, but she did keep it within 3 ft of herself which was enough for us to have a half hour of fresh sea air.

Just because a dog is friendly and "wouldn't hurt anyone" physically, to a frightened child, emotional hurt is just as damaging.
 
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I concur with Mike, and am also sorry to hear about your neighbor problem. I have found it effective with similar dogs to act extremely happy to see them, like I was their person coming home.
 
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Mark Reed wrote:

If you are one who is afraid of or doesn't like dogs that probably won't work for you and just shows even more what a jackass the "owner" is for not having enough consideration for a neighbor to make sure their dog doesn't bother you.  



I love dogs, I just don't love being threatened by a Great Pyrenees. My previous dog that I lost unexpectedly last March would go nuts barking at this dog through the fence (5 foot garden fencing). She wasn't people friendly but she was never allowed outside without me and really never left my side when we were out. My new dog is a former abuse victim who has been trying out her bark in defending me from this lunatic. I don't want her to end up like my last dog, feeling the need to defend me until she gets hurt. I do admit that I can't drop the hostility because this damn dog has scared me too many times and I can't squash the anxiety. I don't want to ruin relationship with my neighbors, (they're actually great neighbors.!) so I've resorted to putting up as many barriers as I can and complaining about it here🤣🤣🤣  . Thanks for listening.
 
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I had a next door psycho dog and also used metal roofing panels to replace the slatted wood fence after discovering that eliminating it's sight line improved things dramatically!!! Initially, I used "mill wrap" the plastic tarp stuff lumber is wrapped in for transport.

A sprinkler along the fence line can also be effective - but what REALLY worked was "accidently" dropping blackberry vine "trimmings" over the fence... By the following year there was a massive thicket of blackberry bushes!!! Now THAT really solved the problem, and the new neighbors (who replaced the poor, neglected psycho dog owners)  LOVE their wall of plump blackberries!
 
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Edward Norton wrote:It’s important to realise that their are two kinds of ‘guard’ dog. The first kind attack, the second kind make a lot of noise.



This. We have a Hovawart dog, the breed is from the Middle ages (Hof wart - watchman of the property) but has been re-created in the modern time after the dogs were mostly killed in WW 2. Very large. Generally a healthy breed. Very loud and with an impressive deep voice when alarmed. Hardly aggressive at all if trained correctly. However, maybe not the best dog to be left alone outside - it much preferes to be with its humans.
 
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Hey,


as a land surveyor I have had to learn how to deal with surveying properties with or next to Guard dogs,
And My first reaction is they are annoying!

( this is properly trained and bred guard dogs, not just a sign on a fence.)

They are loud and give you a headache because the owners are gone and they are barking for hours.

Some dogs will try and bite your hands as you are measuring fences,

I have been attacked a couple times and have had very close calls were I nearly had to use lethal force, to protect Humans.

Some of the people who have had guard dogs seam to have chips on their shoulders and are hostile to neighbours.

They are often trained to move to a certain line or place, and you can walk right up to that while they bark at you and the one step over you will get rushed.

They are a huge legal liability,

Your neighbours will hate you for it,

When your really tired you will hate them,

Many effective alternative methods are available. Guard dogs can be effective but also a taxing effort.
many security actions and options are listed online, But anything with a pin code, I can crack in a minute or two, plus most people do not change the initial set up code which is usually 1234, most people will chose a year, Try 2000-2020 often its a year of a football team winning, or a the year moved in, most people never change the codes, or do so every 3 or so years. additionally people tend to use patterns such as up or down the sides with one variant.

I am not a criminal, I learnt these things from following the law and Being an upstanding citizen,

https://www.bossi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/222485/BOSSI_Power_of_Entry.pdf

this link, to a pdf, shows the process of why and how, this is conducted, Learning skills not to course damage, such as having to climb on fences was out of respect and safety, not for and malicious purposes, and only when essential has it ever been undertaken, I do my upmost to respect all people and there property, and follow the law and government regulations to the letter.

and I would never harm a dog, except if it was to protect another person, I can easily shove away and create a barrier for myself and get away.




 
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Dan Fish wrote:I think it's a good idea!

"Dog's got the instincts, man's got the brains".


I beg to differ! It's other way around.
 
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A lot of sensible and important information here.
I would just like to add my 2 cents here.
While one can choose certain breed for whatever one is looking for, please know that there is always an exception.
Sight hounds don't always have instinct to chase and/nor run or urge to breed when in heat.
Retrievers don't always retrieve.
Beagles don't always follow their noses while ignoring owners "hollering".
Thank you


 
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