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To a small dog, a human is a wall with nose hairs at the top.
-Terry Pratchett

And with apologies to any residents of the Cornhusker state...

English Bob : Well, actually, what I heard was that you fell off your horse, drunk of course, and that you broke your bloody neck.
Little Bill Daggett : I heard that one myself, Bob. Hell, I even thought I was dead 'til I found out it was just that I was in Nebraska.
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What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
-Attributed to several authors, including Henry David Thoreau


Love is the only resource that grows the more you use it.
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Never believe anything until it is officially denied.

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Do not feel lonely, the entire universe is inside of you.
-Rumi

Love is the only resource that grows the more you use it.
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“The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well.” ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

The only thing...more expensive than education is ignorance.~Ben Franklin
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Just as despair can come to one only from other human beings, hope, too, can be given to one only by other human beings.

Elie Wiesel

And he said, "I want to live as an honest man, to get all I deserve, and to give all I can, and to love a young woman whom I don't understand. Your Highness, your ways are very strange."

 
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Do not argue the difficulties. The difficulties will argue for themselves.
-Winston Churchill (on the impossibility of constructing a prefabricated artificial harbor for the Normandy invasion)

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Your dreams can not come true unless you wake up.
-Unknown

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"In the sweetness of friendship let there be laughter, and sharing of pleasures. For in the dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed." ~ Khalil Gibran

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From the universe song in Monty Python's Meaning of Life:

So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure,
how amazingly unlikely is your birth,
and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'cause there's bugger-all down here on earth.

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"Crush your enemies! See them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women!"
Conan The Barbarian, summarizing the greatest joy in life

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It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves.
-William Shakespeare

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"Climb the mountain not to plant your flag, but to embrace the challenge, enjoy the air and behold the view. Climb it so you can see the world, not so the world can see you." ~ David McCullough

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Man is a universe within himself.
-Bob Marley

Love is the only resource that grows the more you use it.
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"Your head and your body are connected by more than just your neck after all."
-TED Radio Hour

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You needn't be well to be wealthy, but you've got to be whole to be holy.
-Emerson, Lake and Palmer

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"If you end up with a boring miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest, or some guy on television … then you deserve it." ~ Frank Zappa

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“Yearning for a new way will not produce it. Only ending the old way can do that.
You cannot hold onto the old all the while declaring that you want something new.
The old will defy the new;
the old will deny the new;
the old will decry the new.
There is only one way to bring in the new.
You must make room for it.”


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Tom Lehrer on the people who make you realize how little you've accomplished:

"It is a sobering thought, for example, that when Mozart was my age he had been dead for two years."

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Give me logic, or give me death.

Thought it up, googled it, and it'd been thought up before I came up with it.

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"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. ... You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." ~ Steve Jobs

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Every moment you share someone else's pain, feel what they feel, makes you more human. .... Bill Murray

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"You just have to give guys a chance. Sometimes you meet a guy and think he's a pig, but then later on you realize he actually has a really good body."
-Leela, Futurama

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I saw this quote a couple of months ago, and am now going to butcher it.  Please correct me with the wording/writer.

"You can convince 10,000 men with emotion before you can convince 1 man with logic."  
? who said it.

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"My wish is to stay always like this, living quietly in a corner of nature." ~ Claude Monet

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"The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patient in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."  ~ Thomas Edison

Gardens in my mind never need water
Castles in the air never have a wet basement
Well made buildings are fractal -- equally intelligent design at every level of detail.
Bright sparks remind others that they too can dance
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A couple of Terry Pratchett's:

Inside of every old person is a young person wondering what happened.
-Moving pictures

Condensed for brevity:

 It is a popular fact that nine-tenths of the brain is not used and, like most popular facts, it is wrong. It is used. And one of its functions is to make the miraculous seem ordinary. Because if this were not the case, then human beings, faced with the daily wondrousness of everything, would go around wearing big stupid grins and say "wow" a lot. And no one would do much work.
 Gods don't like people not doing much work. People who aren't busy all the time might start to think. Part of the brain exists to stop this happening. It is very efficient. It can make people experience boredom in the middle of marvels.
-Small Gods

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"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Krishnamurti

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How rich we are in knowledge, and in all that lies around us yet to learn.  Billionaires, all of us.-- Ursula Le Guin

And

The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change.
 
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All the powers in the universe are already ours.  It is we who have put our hands before our eyes and cry that it is dark.   ... Swami Vivekananda

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"My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention."

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."

-Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

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"Love is a force more formidable than any other. It is invisible - it cannot be seen or measured, yet it is powerful enough to transform you in a moment..." ~ Barbara de Angelis

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"To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead." ~ Bertrand Russell

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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt


To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
 
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"Your life is an occasion; Rise to it. " ~ Mr. Magorium

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“When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that’s what you’re going to get, Son, the strongest castle in all of England.” – King of the Swamp Castle

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"Don't cut the person to fit the coat"

"When reality clashes with a rigidly held belief, reality is generally the loser"

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"He was one of those guys who's so deep that he reads six levels of meaning into everything, and so sensitive that it hurts your eyes when the sun gets on him."
-Vague recollection from a 1980s issue of National Lampoon

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“I think us here to wonder, myself. To wonder. To ask. And that in wondering bout the big things and asking bout the big things, you learn about the little ones, almost by accident. But you never know nothing more about the big things than you start out with. The more I wonder, the more I love.”
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