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junkpole fence: freaky cheap chicken/deer fence made from wood typically thrown away  RSS feed

 
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Fred told me of a 'new and improved' version of the junk pole fence today.

Brown poles have fasteners in them. Lighter poles are loose within the frame.
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One side of the fence.
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Another side of the fence.
 
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How it works:

Vertical posts are sturdy; fixed in the ground.
Top and bottom horizontal members are fastened to vertical posts via screws.
Junk pole pieces are placed vertical in between vertical posts.
A few of these junk poles are fastened to both top and bottom horizontal members.
One Mid-height horizontal member is fastened to the few junk poles that were/are fastened.
This creates a frame to keep the junk poles standing up straight on top of the ground.
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Section: One side of the fence.
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Section: Another side of the fence.
 
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Brandon and Nikki have their own junkpole action going on.  check this out!






There's more on their thread here:  https://permies.com/t/57360/Brandon-Nikki-Homestead#489378

Or go to the beginning of their thread here: https://permies.com/t/57360


 
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Nice to see all the creativity using "junkpoles" .

THese young spruce are often thinned out of woodlots, so that might be a good source of material , as the thinning crews leave them on the ground.  THink: free materials if you ask nicely.

Spruce especially will last forever if standing upright. Horizontally it will soak up water and  rot fairly quickly.

In Norway at least they make the fencing out of fir and they split it so that the "wedge" shape points up, they are placed diagonally like in Sweden , but are tied with strips of green bark to the double posts,  which tightens when it dries. They axe cut the tops level. "Ski gard" (stave fence) The double posts are quite thin roundwood and they are left quite high, about 8 ft whereas the fence usually 4 ft. this so they show up in deep snow.

The rails are much like the split cedar rails in N.A. Making 4 staves out of each 10 ft  piece of fir. Fir splits easily, like cedar. When splitting long pieces an iron wedge is inserted in the 4-6 inch butt and wooden wedges inserted in the side as you work your way up the log.

In Denmark they use these pole fences with the vertical poles very tight together and quite tall as attractive privacy fencing. Again these are thinnings from plantations of spruce/fir.  

Great to see so many people making use of this abundant and inexpensive material !
 
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For what it's worth, your "junkpole" fence is historically called a Palisade or Stake Wall.
 
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Good point Peter,

The pallisade fence/wall played an important role in American history. The Iroquois nation tribes used them  and the settlers soon copied the idea and it was widely used as a quick and easy Fort design on the Frontier.

Also sometimes called a Stockade.
 
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I looked up "pallisade".  There are similarities, but this design is different enough that I think it is not a pallisade.

 
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Thanks for Sharing our Junk Pole Fence, we loved helping Evan at the Lab do his for Mr. Chops, the Larger section was very loosely modeled after Wattle and Duab. It has grape vines growing on it now and we usually plant Mexican Sour Gerkins on it during the summer that helps to fill in all the holes. And after three years its still standing strong.
 
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That is real interesting, I guess if ya had neighbours that had extensive brush land , you could almost offer to clear out their bush just to build yourself a fence. looks like it may work good for a snow fence too.
 
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I had to update the design a few times.  I will get into more explanations in a moment.  But for now, the most important change is that we go from this:



to this:
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First issue is the rock jacks:  there were getting in the way of the junkpole.   Wherever a rock jack encountered junk poles, it got weird.  

Another thing is that for every four people that were working on a fence, only one had actually looked at the image.   And then as they worked, three would outvote one on "the right way".   So the very thing I emphasize to NOT do, was the very thing that they WOULD do.

This change results in a fence that just looks far better, is easier to maintain and does a better job with controlling smaller critters.   And, most of all, minimizes the "don't do this" stuff.  

 
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this drawing is a bit more accurate.   The horizontal poles can overlap, so then the whole fence becomes more consistent.
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Junkpole fence in December
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