Vertical posts are sturdy; fixed in the ground.
Top and bottom horizontal members are fastened to vertical posts via screws.
Junk pole pieces are placed vertical in between vertical posts.
A few of these junk poles are fastened to both top and bottom horizontal members.
One Mid-height horizontal member is fastened to the few junk poles that were/are fastened.
This creates a frame to keep the junk poles standing up straight on top of the ground.
Nice to see all the creativity using "junkpoles" .
THese young spruce are often thinned out of woodlots, so that might be a good source of material , as the thinning crews leave them on the ground. THink: free materials if you ask nicely.
Spruce especially will last forever if standing upright. Horizontally it will soak up water and rot fairly quickly.
In Norway at least they make the fencing out of fir and they split it so that the "wedge" shape points up, they are placed diagonally like in Sweden , but are tied with strips of green bark to the double posts, which tightens when it dries. They axe cut the tops level. "Ski gard" (stave fence) The double posts are quite thin roundwood and they are left quite high, about 8 ft whereas the fence usually 4 ft. this so they show up in deep snow.
The rails are much like the split cedar rails in N.A. Making 4 staves out of each 10 ft piece of fir. Fir splits easily, like cedar. When splitting long pieces an iron wedge is inserted in the 4-6 inch butt and wooden wedges inserted in the side as you work your way up the log.
In Denmark they use these pole fences with the vertical poles very tight together and quite tall as attractive privacy fencing. Again these are thinnings from plantations of spruce/fir.
Great to see so many people making use of this abundant and inexpensive material !
The pallisade fence/wall played an important role in American history. The Iroquois nation tribes used them and the settlers soon copied the idea and it was widely used as a quick and easy Fort design on the Frontier.
Thanks for Sharing our Junk Pole Fence, we loved helping Evan at the Lab do his for Mr. Chops, the Larger section was very loosely modeled after Wattle and Duab. It has grape vines growing on it now and we usually plant Mexican Sour Gerkins on it during the summer that helps to fill in all the holes. And after three years its still standing strong.
My Signature for the last few years was "just spinning wheels," but after our PDC at Pauls Place this summer I feel like we are finally catching traction. Hope to be threading some more. got a roof on our house, swales dug, and finally starting to work on our plan in more details.
That is real interesting, I guess if ya had neighbours that had extensive brush land , you could almost offer to clear out their bush just to build yourself a fence. looks like it may work good for a snow fence too.
First issue is the rock jacks: there were getting in the way of the junkpole. Wherever a rock jack encountered junk poles, it got weird.
Another thing is that for every four people that were working on a fence, only one had actually looked at the image. And then as they worked, three would outvote one on "the right way". So the very thing I emphasize to NOT do, was the very thing that they WOULD do.
This change results in a fence that just looks far better, is easier to maintain and does a better job with controlling smaller critters. And, most of all, minimizes the "don't do this" stuff.
Love the look of the junkpole fence. I'm going to have to clear out a lot of smaller trees that would be perfect for this. I've been saving a lot of them, much to my wife's chagrin. Now I have something wonderful to do with them besides burning them. The crooked ones will go to the hugulkultur pile, and the straight ones to the junkpole fence pile. Love the idea.
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It is a great solution, and this new version is even easier to build than the oryginal one. One thing I would like to point out is that in the description it says it is good for chickens. It obviously doesn't let chickens out, but unfortunately it doesn't prevent the fox to go in. Works great for my woodland garden, but chickens would need addition of LGD or some other means of defense.
An 8-foot tall junk pole fence is about to be built. Here are a few of the posts:
Since this new fence is up at the lab, we will use regular posts instead of rock jacks. This thing has been mighty handy:
We got this tool called "the log wizard". It's supposed to be a bark scraping tool, but we found it dug into the wood too easy - so we prefer the manual scrapers. But we did discover that this thing was great for putting a saddle notch into a horizontal.
The idea is that if we have round-to-round and the wind blows and wiggles the bits, the screws/nails eventually break. But if we get a really solid connection, then there is much less wiggle - we think that the screw/nail will last ten times longer.
Here's a fascinating video of Finnish rye farmers practicing swidden agriculture in Sweden. They just show up, cut everything down, burn the residue, build junkpole-ish fences and grain cribs from onsite materials, plant the crops, harvest/dry them--these were some working-ass people!:
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