J Davis wrote:So, its not a perennial, but it is low maintenance and comes back each year. Its just so tasty you might consider sow thistle.
Any varieties you think are the best eating? I do have some shady areas that they should do good in.
greg mosser wrote:hostas.
Tivona Hager wrote:Any varieties you think are the best eating? I do have some shady areas that they should do good in.
greg mosser wrote:hostas.
Morfydd St. Clair wrote:Rather than keep editing my reply forever, I'm replying again.
Camass would also be a logical native for you. I just planted a few this spring and have many bulbs coming soon. The only worry for you is that Death Camas is also native there, so you'd have to be careful to keep that out.
I've been trying to get skirret established but the slugs loooove it too much.
I've gotten most of my information from here, Permaculture magazine, and several books, including:
Steven Barstow: Around the world in 80 plants - heavy on the alliums, but really cool plants!
Eric Toensmeier: Perennial vegetables - practical, inspirational
Martin Crawford: How to grow perennial vegetables - practical, UK-based which is good for your climate
Anni Kelsey: Edible perennial gardening - also UK-based, probably no new plants for you, but nice all-around intro
And I totally forgot to say: You have so many already! You have a really interesting, diverse mix, and congratulations for being able to nurture so many plants from all over!
Tivona Hager wrote:
Wow. Thanks for all of that information.
I have tried several various vines but they failed usually from the lack of heat. The Hablitzia tamnoides sounds promising though and I will add it to my list to try next year. Slugs should not be a problem with my ducks thinking they are candy. We used to have an Oregon grape across the road a few years ago but it died with no care and probably to much crowding. Oddly I am having a hard time finding some again. I love curds though and am going to bookmark your recipe link so I can make it next time I find some.
I do have a couple of places I can fit something larger in so the linden is a nice idea. Not sure if I can find it easily but if I see it I’ll try to get it. It sounds great as long as I place it well and can trim it down a bit. I know that they do grow around here but had totally forgotten about them. It might take me a few years but I like having the plan for it.
I have been debating on the camass. My main problem is trying to find the perfect spot for them. Maybe next year I can get the spot that I think they will do well ready. I don’t want them to be crowded out or get to wet and rot. I have never seen any death camass but I have seen one of the blue edible ones in the wild about a decade ago and a state away. I have been tossing the idea around for awhile now of getting some but I did find a place that sells it so I can get some when I am ready.
The hostas I guess I will just have to try. Hopefully I get some that are good tasting.
I also like bitterness so I will try to order some sea kale seeds. Are they hard to start? I think I read that somewhere. I get some of the Turkish rocket too if I can.
I have the book Perennial vegetables by Eric Toensmeier but haven’t read the others. I see if I can check them out.
Again thank you for all the suggestions. You gave me ideas and reminded me of a few I had forgotten about.
Morfydd St. Clair wrote:
I was checking www.pfaf.org to refresh my vague memories of an American linden (there is! tilia americana, shockingly. However, PFAF have the food value for that as only a 3, as opposed to 5 for my tilia cordata) and realized I'd forgotten to recommend their books too.
Tivona Hager wrote:I try to add a least one perennial vegetable or fruit each year but I am out of ideas for what to add next year. Here is what I have so far:
Cosmic Lights kale
Asparagus (I had to replant this year due to my previous plants dying)
Gladiolus (edible flowers)
Musk Mallow (I only eat the flowers)
Blackberries thornless and wild Himalayan
Strawberries June bearing and everbearing
Raspberries several types
Oca Bolivian Red
Oca OE Blush
Herbs. Chives, sage, rosemary, oregano, lemon thyme, and regular thyme, Lemon balm, peppermint, chocolate mint, fennel (I only use the seeds) and horseradish.
A few wild edible weeds. Plantain both narrow and broadleaf, Dandelion, Self Heal, Lawn Daisy, Wood sorrel (don't care for it but can't kill it), Sheep sorrel, and Purple Dead Nettle.
I think that is it. I have and do eat all of these (except the Ocas and the Ulluco as they are new this year and still not able to be harvested). I don't have room for trees but anything bush or smaller would fit. I really want some more greens if I can find some perennials that like my Oregon coast climate. The only things I don't want are plants with toxic parts as I have ducks and geese roaming my garden. Most things are fenced off but I want to be as safe as possible for their sakes.
I am planning on trying to get some perennial Arugula, Turkish rocket, and also perhaps Good King Henry if I can find them. I might also try getting some Mashua but I have no idea on good-tasting varieties. If you have any suggestions for good to eat perennial greens or fruits (bush or smaller) I would really like to hear it. Varieties of plants suggested would be great if possible too.
T.J. Stewart wrote:Where did you order from?
Tivona Hager wrote:
Also included in the orders were Achocha Cyclanthera brachystegia and Jacob’s tears.
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