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Many articles discourage the use of non organic, store bought potatoes because of chemical treatments they use to prevent sprouting. I wonder if I could wash the potatoes under very warm water for a minute or two to get the chemicals off.
 
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Mines have grown with no washing.  It helps if they have lots of eyes and they are a bit old and turning green.
 
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Wilson et al. (1981) showed that washing the tubers under running water reduced CIPC concentration from 45 to 40 mg L−1. By applying a more rigorous washing procedure, 88 % of CIPC was removed (level changed from 1.6 to 0.2 mg per kg of potatoes) from potatoes which were earlier treated with an emulsified solution of CIPC (0.1 %)


interesting article

So probably the answer is no, as I think really vigorous washing would probably damage the eyes!
 
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I've never had store bought potatoes not grow.  Often times, they start growing in the cupboard before I can eat them.

But I usually buy potatoes grown in the same country, so they don't need treatment to go through customs.

I suspect organic potatoes wouldn't have fancy chemicals.  Probably better for you too.
 
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Although I've never planted any store bought, my potatoes always start sprouting after a while in the dark cupboard where they're kept.

Just took these pics. a minute ago.
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First if all, not all commercial potatoes are treated to prevent sprouting. But some indeed are. There is no way for you to tell the difference, since the treatment is not required to be revealed to the permies. Organic labeled potatoes are not allowed by law to be treated, but keep in mind that cheating is now rampant in the industry.

Among treated potatoes, you will see considerable variation in sprouting. Potatoes that received a goodly treatment, sprouting will be significantly suppressed to the point that the eyes don't develop greening. The less the potato was exposed, the more sprouting will occur. Some will produce a mass of stunted knobby sprouting tissue but nothing above the soil surface. Some will produce green shoots above the soil level, but they stay small and stunted. Others will produce an almost normal looking plant, but instead of making normal tubers, it makes knobby masses. And those that received very low exposure to the chemical will sprout almost normally but not produce a large crop of spuds. Keep in mind that the commercial potatoes are treated in large bulk masses, so some tubers get exposed to the chemical more so than others simply because it's impossible to make treatment even with such large bulks.

As I see it, a more serious problem with using supermarket potatoes for planting is diseases, primarily blight. While the seed producing companies constantly survey their fields and remove any "off" plants that may be diseased, commercial production farms do not. Thus blight may exist in their fields and nothing is done about it. The potatoes are harvested, sold, sent to stores. They are safe to eat, but may carry blight to a gardener's land if used for planting. I personally have seen cases where this has happened, where disease-free gardens ended up contaminated with blight. So this is something to keep in mind.
 
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I wonder if it's a USA thing?

In Canada, we have quarantine zones.  If you are known to have blight, nematodes, or other stuff, you can grow potatoes, but you cannot export it out of the zone.  There's a great deal of protection so if someone tosses the old potatoes in their compost or urban compost collection (as is the law in many places), the nasty stuff won't make it into the food chain.

Which requires you to know two things
- in most of Canada, it is (or will soon be) the law that you cannot put compostable items like potato peels in the trash - it MUST be composted either at home or with urban compost collection.
- urban compost collection is often composted in a not-hot way and used on organic (or inorganic) farms so it's easy to spread diseases.

That's why it's so strict with possible criminal charges, to export potatoes off a quarantine zone.  

Since exported potatoes are tested, this extra expense of applying chemicals doesn't make much economic sense.  
 
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Since blight is wind born if it's in your area you will get it. this year we grew new certified potatoes in a space they have not been grown in at least 30 years. (nor had they been grown within half a mile in the last 5) we got blight at the same time as normal and just as hard. There is no way to avoid blight.
 
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Ethanol  can trigger dormant potatoes to sprout. Therefore, you might try soaking them in beer after washing with water.

 
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I grow store bought, organic potatoes all the time.  But, I wouldnt bother with the non-organic as it is too much of a risk, go to the trouble of the garden space to not have a yield, since many are sprayed.  More often though I start with seed potatoes and save my own from year to year.  I have some seed potatoes that were originally store bought organic, the russets, they are the variety Norkotah ( which I likely misspelled).  The reason I had planted some of those a few years ago is that my planting season is early than other areas and I had not planned ahead and ordered in the fall, and also since they were so far gone in storage, even I thought they should just be planted !  Those store bought Norkotah were organially grown and I bought them from Azure Standard ( they have a web site and truck delivery to alot of the continental USA ) they have a very good reputation on their sourcing, so I could trust that they actually were organic.  Some stuff labelled organic, yes, maybe some places "cheat.  Another source for you could be yoru local farmers market, so regular potatoes locally grown to you, likely these are not treated, so ask at the farmers market.  

I just mail ordered a new variety to be planted here, soon, to add to the ones I saved from last year, and these I bought recently from Peaceful Valley Farm ( GrowOrganic.com) and since they are also in CA, they could send to my area now, when I need them.  It looks like you, the original poster, are also in California, so go to their website.  They are shipping within CA right now, if you cant figure it out, call them.  They also have fair pricing on seed potatoes, compared to many venders.
 
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Most store bought potatoes seem to sprout without a wash or treatment. Or you can go the route of organic ones. If the ones you have aren't spouting then please stop buying that brand immediately. It is dangerous and covered in toxic gick.

Even if seed potatoes seem expensive, compared to you leftovers, they are a one time investment. Unless you growing to seed to discover genetics that have been lost, you are buying a known type that will clone true again and again. Kind of like apples.

 
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You can force potatos to sprout by putting them in a box with a slice of apple. Redhawk told me about this and it allowed me to use my spring crop for a fall planting.
 
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wayne fajkus wrote:You can force potatos to sprout by putting them in a box with a slice of apple. Redhawk told me about this and it allowed me to use my spring crop for a fall planting.


Could you clarify please? So you put them in a box with a slice of apple that will rot or am i not keeping it in there for long?
 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:Ethanol  can trigger dormant potatoes to sprout. Therefore, you might try soaking them in beer after washing with water.


What percentage? Does it need to something strong or can i just use a diluted wine mixture?
 
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Samuel Palmer wrote:

Joseph Lofthouse wrote:Ethanol  can trigger dormant potatoes to sprout. Therefore, you might try soaking them in beer after washing with water.


What percentage? Does it need to something strong or can i just use a diluted wine mixture?



0.5% ethanol is sufficient.
 
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Put tubers in a plastic bag with a splash of 70% ethyl alcohol for 48 hours and then wait.  It breaks dormancy on some, but not others.  The sprout inhibitors usually aren't very effective anyway.  Patience will almost always result in sprouts.

That said, if you are planning to grow potatoes long term, don't grow grocery store potatoes.  There are many common potato pathogens but most of them will never trouble you if you don't introduce them to your garden.  Some are nearly impossible to get rid of once you do.
 
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Samuel Palmer wrote:

wayne fajkus wrote:You can force potatos to sprout by putting them in a box with a slice of apple. Redhawk told me about this and it allowed me to use my spring crop for a fall planting.


Could you clarify please? So you put them in a box with a slice of apple that will rot or am i not keeping it in there for long?



I think it does the same as the other recommendations. The apple rots, it produces ethylene gas. That's my understanding.  Someone had said a banana would work also.

When i did it, i had 2 boxes. The one with the apple sprouted, the one without it did not. It was pretty clear to me that it worked.
 
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My ware potatoes didn’t sprout by end of June 2020. I dug a few up and though firm no sprouts.
 
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I bought some store potatoes here in Canada in January 2020. They didn't sprout. In March, I placed them out in the sun and by mid April they still hadn't sprouted.

So I put them in soil and placed them in a warm spot and by June when planting time is here they still hadn't sprouted. In fact they looked as fresh as the day I bought them.

I cut them up into pieces as you do and planted them anyway. Nothing.

I harvested the other potatoes in early October, so I went over and had a dig around these frankenspuds, and the pieces were still sitting in the ground, not even touched by bugs.

I have no idea what they did to those things but I'm not eating potatoes from that supplier!
 
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I think I am having the same issue with mine. I bought mine directly from a potato farm in the Greater Toronto Area back in February 2021. I placed them in buckets in my room which is around 21 C. I see very tiny eyes but no distinct sprouts. By mid March 2021, I exposed them to direct sunlight and they got green but the eyes barely started coming out. I'm still hoping this will change later on.
 
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Phil Ly wrote:I think I am having the same issue with mine. I bought mine directly from a potato farm in the Greater Toronto Area back in February 2021. I placed them in buckets in my room which is around 21 C. I see very tiny eyes but no distinct sprouts. By mid March 2021, I exposed them to direct sunlight and they got green but the eyes barely started coming out. I'm still hoping this will change later on.



Do they look like this?


Stolen from this blog

If so they are perfect and ready to go, that's how a sprouted potato should look not the long white sprouts you find when they have been left in the back of a cupboard to long.
 
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  I didn't wash my potatoes (which after reading this I should have) but I had my potatoes in a plastic container that started to condensate inside and sprouted like crazy in the dark.
  After that I planted them in my raised garden with soil and watered and covered it with thick dark plastic for a couple of days.
   I realized that it likes drained soil rather than wet drenched soil. But keep it in the dark.
   There little 2 inches tall as of April but it's still growing.
   I hope it continues and if anyone could give me some tips that would be greatly appreciated 🙂
 
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I wash mine with a little soapy water and since well then repeating and it seems to work fine. I have some Yukon,and red potatoes in the sunny window right now!  Last year I did this with  little finger potatoes ,..all colors n got them to grow!  
Happy gardening!!
 
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Hi Debbie,

Welcome to Permies.
 
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From the University of Idaho, also a big potato country they give this alternative: "Peppermint and spearmint oils applied in storage can be used as effective sprout suppressants".
This might be OK for a few potatoes, but peppermint and spearmint oils are pricey.
The sheds in which they store the potatoes around here are kept cold [close to freezing but not freezing] with 80-90% humidity. There has to be a little constant ventilation and the tubers must be stored in the dark. That is the absolute ideal.
Inside the home, the best place would be your crisper, inside the refrigerator. If you have too many potatoes, perhaps a dedicated fridge? or a shed free of rodents where you can maintain the temperature steady. Cool but moist seems to be their preferred environment. Those do not solve the ventilation, but if you check on them, you may get enough ventilation?
Just the 2 of us do not use enough potatoes to justify another building or even a spare fridge, but if you have a big family, that's something to look into.
This said, I've never had any difficulty getting potatoes to germinate. If they are sprouting, you are good to go, and in the spring, the light and the additional warmth will be their wake up call.
Someone mentioned also when you do want them to sprout, the apple trick: Apples produce ethylene when they are overripe, that that gets a potato going. Put a sacrificial apple in your bag of potatoes and they will sprout readily, especially if they are in a warm spot: that tricks them into thinking that the growing season has arrived.
 
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Well when we do end up with storebought general potatoes that aren't out of the organic section I will now wash them thoroughly before we eat them.

 
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Dear hubby always used store-bought organic new potatoes.

When covid struck in 2020 we were doing self-quarantine so I took something like the last three store-bought potatoes that I had, cut them up and planted the pieces.

This was my first and last time growing potatoes.

The last because we have just given up on trying to grow in alkaline soil with alkaline water.

I had lots of beautiful plants.  Had my first vole attack.  The garden was attacked by three different kinds of ants.

Anyway, I got a handful of fingerling potatoes.

The potatoes tasted great and I had fun learning more about gardening and alkaline water.

If I had to do it over again I probably would.

And maybe adding some vinegar or lemon juice to the water before watering would have helped the water situation.
 
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First, it's worth the investment to get certified disease-free potatoes. They are still not 100% guaranteed not to introduce diseases, but are surely less likely to than storebought. Second, if at all possible, don't buy potatoes that are not organic even to eat. I bought some from a local grower who is a mostly organic agronomist. A bit pricey, but he told me that not only do commercial growers spray a shitload of different nasty chemicals on the potato crops, but the tubers ingest them--so peeling doesn't make the potatoes safe. Nonetheless I do peel potatoes on the occasions when there is a gap in spring between the last of my old crop and the first of my new one, if I can't find organic ones. My potatoes keep very well in a root cellar--we built it and there are two of us but I consider it well worth the work and cost, because we eat a lot of potatoes and also use it for carrots and sometimes fruit or brassicas.
And once you get a variety of potatoes going, for example Tractor supply sells about four varieties in three or four pound bags, One of these, when chopped, will fill one of my 12 X 3' beds. Then with decent soil and care I should get at least a four-fold, maybe a ten-fold increase. Then as long as I save some in my root cellar, taking care to reject any that do poorly or look funny, I can replant them the next spring.
I did learn one thing, when I planted some of my own Red Norlands in July; I also planted some Kennebecs and they did fine for a late crop but only a few Norlands ever sprouted and there was a gap. This is because they have a mechanism to avoid quick sprouting; if I harvest Norlands, which are an early variety, planted early and harvested early and then stored in the root cellar a month or so, and then moved to the dark pantry for awhile, THEN they'd sprout in time for late planting. Carol Deppe talks about this and a whole lot more in her potato chapter of The Resilient Gardener.
 
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Store-bought potatoes will sprout, but usually a lot slower than seed potatoes. Buy a month or two early and wash/soak them in water to rinse the inhibitors off. I have not had big problems, but always fewer grow. Dedicated seed potatoes are worth the small investment.

Best is saved potatoes from your own garden! Mine often sprout over winter and grow long stems. Gently separate them and plant the whole thing.
 
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Thom Bri wrote:Store-bought potatoes will sprout, but usually a lot slower than seed potatoes. Buy a month or two early and wash/soak them in water to rinse the inhibitors off.



Store bought potatoes have been a bit unpredictable to me. Those bought not long after the harvest season tend to have less treatment and sprout better. Some have been in the storage too long and have an older physiological age, resulting in multiple weak shoots and low yield. Some with delayed sprouts totally miss the optimal temperature for spud initiation, growing only leaves throughout the hot summer.
 
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I don't purposely plant store-bought potatoes, so I don't have a huge cache of observations to draw on, but when we have potatoes that get rubbery and wrinkled, they go into the compost like everything else, and they frequently grow around the edge of the compost piles when things warm up in the spring. So they can't be too awfully inhibited.
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