Tyler Ludens wrote:Nicole, have you tried Hardy Yams? http://www.pfaf.org/user/cmspage.aspx?pageid=60
I have one plant of Hardy Yam but it isn't doing much because it doesn't get sufficient water.
Regarding deer; I wouldn't be able to grow anything without fences.
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300 total sq. ft. intensively cultivated, hugulkultur beds, producing at over 500lbs or $1500-5k of food annually in Zone 5b.
6 chickens worth of droppings, bedding, and 3 peoples worth of food waste provide plenty of compost to keep the beds growing indefinitely.
$500 up front cost(minus reclaimed materials): includes loam and compost, lumber for building beds and chicken coop, tools, chickens, and fencing for garden and chicken run, rain barrels or buckets
$300 upkeep costs(minus reclaimed supplies): includes seeds, chicken feed, mulch and water.
Skandi Rogers wrote:We don't grow grains as they are too much work with hand equipment and take too much land,
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Tyler Ludens wrote:Nicole, have you tried Hardy Yams? http://www.pfaf.org/user/cmspage.aspx?pageid=60
I have one plant of Hardy Yam but it isn't doing much because it doesn't get sufficient water.
Regarding deer; I wouldn't be able to grow anything without fences.
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fred greek wrote:kathleen, obviously do your own due deligence, check with your doc, etc., but I read that sweet potatoes are not a member of the nightshade family, rather they are in the convolvulaceae family.
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Genevieve Higgs wrote:I liked this person's video on year one of working on a wheat landrace for his location. He does things like calculate how many grains he gets back for each one planted, and what his yield per square meter was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkO3EhG7v3c
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Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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Ann Thomas wrote:Has anyone planted pigeon peas or had experience with pigeon peas?
Randie Ray wrote:
There's also a very acidic layer of Mt St Helen's ash that was turned over onto the top of the soil when our land was was being excavated for home building. This stuff is 5PH!! Have quick lime will travel, eh? Great for Blueberries though. Got lots of blueberry starts thriving here.
Tristan Vitali wrote:
Randie Ray wrote:
There's also a very acidic layer of Mt St Helen's ash that was turned over onto the top of the soil when our land was was being excavated for home building. This stuff is 5PH!! Have quick lime will travel, eh? Great for Blueberries though. Got lots of blueberry starts thriving here.
Wow! I'm sure it's still loaded with nutrients, but that's some pretty low pH. We're dealing with similar poor draining soil, nearly pure clay, with low pH out here on the opposite side of the country. What seems to have worked best for it is copious amounts of organic matter on the surface. Trying to mix it in turns things to soup when wet, then it sets up like concrete, but thick mulch in a matter of two years gives us a gorgeous 4" layer of water retentive topsoil that everything seems to love. By year 6, some of the beds are looking rich down to nearly 1 foot (quite the accomplishment with this soil!)
One thing with the very low pH comes to mind - mind your other minerals and the soil type. Clay often binds up badly when there's high magnesium in the soil, which is why the idea of using gypsum rather than dolomite lime works out so well. Sulfur in the gypsum will actually pull the magnesium out from between plates of clay particles, the "deflocculation" process, while actually freeing up calcium and potassium already in the soil. I've seen some "soilologists" talk about treating highly acid, hard pack clay soils with elemental sulfur first to help fix magnesium issues, and have run into my own experience of accidentally (ignorantly) adding magnesium to a bed only to find the soil got tighter and plants suffered. High-Cal lime, wallastonite, and even the various potassium amendments will have much more impact on the soil if you're dealing with heavy clay than dolomitic lime.
Something to look at if you've done a soil test and see normal-ish magnesium but low numbers for everything else along with a low pH.
All that said, cover crop everything with anything that will grow. It's amazing what a multi-species cover crop will do in a couple years. Shoot for 8 or more species with varying root structures, and go heavy on the hardy, low growing, standing-water tolerant white clover to help fix that nitrogen issue. 8 seems to be the magic number, but more is always better. Even in hard pack clay with a ~5.5 pH and water-logging issues, we've seen excellent results doing this and then letting the ducks and chickens run wild once or twice a year - once you find your compost worms prefer the future crop fields and pasture areas to their bin, you know you're doing it the right way
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