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One of my goals in life is to always be learning something new everyday. Whether that be through experience, reading or other means. I'm guessing many of us Permies have a similar attitude or at least, are very likely learning all the time due to trying things most don't. And we can all learn more if we share! Maybe it could be fun to share something you learned today, whether it's silly, serious or just interesting. Maybe the story of how you learned it, if you feel called.

I'll start. Today, with the help of one of my 11 week old chickens who loves sitting on my shoulder even though she's getting too big to fit and is subsequently having a hard time staying balanced there, I learned that chickens have claws on their wings! And they're quite big and sharp. As if the scratches on my arms from talons weren't enough to make people who see me in the normal world wonder what the heck I'd been doing, now I've got a giant one on my face. Lesson learned.

What did you learn today?

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Oh, what a nice thread!

I gave up New Year Resolutions several years ago and instead decided I'd use the new year to learn a new skill. So I'm totally on board with trying to learn new stuff!

I'm sorry to hear about your chicken injury. At least you've got a good story to tell about it! Ha! But I do hope you heal up.

Today I learned a bittersweet skill: my family took in an orphaned mockingbird about a month ago. It had no feathers. It was a goner if we didn't take it in. So we put it in a 5 gallon bucket and raised it. We called him/her/it Zipper. I taught it a special whistle whenever I'd feed it, so she'd associate that particular whistle with food.

She grew, learned to fly, and we taught her to feed herself. She'd spend more and more time outside, but she always flew back to me whenever I gave the whistle. She has a particular chirp that I recognize, so if I called her and she was up in a tree somewhere, she'd chirp at me so I could find her.

Two nights ago, I whistled for her to come in for the night. (She still slept inside for safety.) She called back from the woods, but never flew to the back door. So I figured she was ready to be on her own, but I was worried! The next morning (yesterday), I got up early to whistle for her. She chirped back to let me know she was ok, but she never came for food. I only saw her in passing yesterday as she sat on her favorite perch but flew away if I got too close.

So I'm glad and sad today. I got to rescue a baby bird and it "graduated." It was an interesting month of learning about mockingbird behavior. Honestly, I never cared for mockingbirds. They often dive bombed me if I unknowingly got too close. They are very territorial. But I have a new appreciation for them now that I've been able to raise one.

Thanks, Y'all!

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Monsoon season here in New Mexico. A couple of days ago, we had 1.5 inches of water in 20 minutes. Runoff from the roof and out buildings filled the dry swales that I’ve been digging for the past decade. Due to extended drought, I never actually knew if the depressions would hold the vast amounts of water that would fall suddenly on dry earth during a healthy monsoon season. The holding ponds work and all the water stayed in place without running down the street.

Today, just two days later, the water has caused the depressions to explode with new sprouting seedlings. I have no idea what is growing in these low spots but am so eager to find out! The next few days and weeks will reveal the plant types. If nothing else, I will have mulch to reinvigorate the foundation plantings. I learned that the wonder of this new growth from mystery seeds in the low spots is incredibly enlivening and hopeful.

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My boss is an incredible font of knowledge, and he's almost always happy to share - especially when it comes to his passions - coffee beans and music. Today, he told me how our Indian Monsoon Malabar coffee came by that trade name. It's grown in Malabar, India, and when it was shipped to England, it would get wet, on board the ship, so they'd drag it out of the hold, and open it up to the sun and wind, to dry it out. This would happen repeatedly, on each trip, with the beans being somewhat fermented and sun-bleached, by the time they arrived in port. Over time, their shipping methods improved, and the constant getting wet/drying in the sun cycle didn't happen anymore, and the Brits receiving it didn't like how the flavor changed, so they producers started trying to figure out what was different, and how to mimic the previous flavor. What they finally settled on, that worked perfectly, was to leave the beans out, prior to shipping, in the coastal monsoons!

Who'da thunk there would be such an interesting history behind one specific type of coffee bean!

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I have posted before about my quest to befriend pigeons but it has started to morph as I have more critters visiting my property.

I have learned recently that if you offer crows peanuts, they will NEVER leave. Okay, they might leave but they will come by and check in if the peanuts have been 'restocked'.

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Yesterday, I learned about the walking stick tree. That was fun and I want one:

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I couldn't sleep last night, so I was on my phone looking up how to make foot powered scroll saws!

I'm also still fascinated by furniture that folds, slides, does things other than just sit there.

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I've been learning about how healing can be understood across various disciplines
Homeopathy is one interesting subject
As well as ayurveda
how healing starts from understanding our thought patterns
How caring gentle kind people help us

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Pearl Sutton wrote:I couldn't sleep last night, so I was on my phone looking up how to make foot powered scroll saws!

I'm also still fascinated by furniture that folds, slides, does things other than just sit there.

Check out Roy Underhill's "woodwrights shop" if you aren't already familiar with it. I can't remember the episode but he has a good one on a tredle powered table saw and a spring pole powered lathe.

Lately I've been learning to consider all uses when designing things around the homestead. I built a new coop for the chickens, but dear wifey decided that it would be a good time to go ahead and move some of the chicks over and let them acclimate to the new coop before the larger hens move in. These are the two pictures I got the next morning when she went in there to check on them:

The little girl had wedged herself there sometime during the night. So needless to say (especially with chickens), expect the unexpected. (She's doing just fine)

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I have been in a slight metalworking craze, hammering on de-barbed barbed wire, making knitting needles and other implements (sewing needles, I tried—couldn’t figure out how to make a hole.) and trying to make a hoe from an old metal drum. (The latter has me perplexed. The hack saw sort of worked…) A little knife blade from the scraps… Not only that but a friend gave me a lovely cauldron to clean out and make usable again, which I did. Unfortunately a crack formed during part of the process (when I foolishly thought a hammer and stone might be useful to even out the pits that had formed!) So now I have to learn welding too?

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This introvert learned from a kind person today that, if you just ask a few questions that let people talk about what they love to do--while working on a chore together or something--that can lift everyone's spirits. It was a kind of gift, I realized afterwards.

“If we are honest, we can still love what we are, we can find all the good there is to find, and we may find ways to enhance that good, and to find a new kind of living world which is appropriate for our time.” ― Christopher Alexander

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I recently learned (courtesy of a fellow permie), that I have freshwater bryozoan in my pond. I also learned that these gelatinous blobs of zooids can help increase water clarity and may be a bio-indicator of a healthy, oxygenated pond.

https://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/freshwater-bryozoan/

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I learned . . . that memory may not be reliable, so now I label my natural dye samples and have a book that details how I got the colour.
. . . that a puddle (hadn't seen one for almost a year) and a rubber boot with a crack across the sole just don't mix.
. . . that the garlic that got overlooked has volunteered another crop.
. . . that the feral deer get a memo to make themselves scarce just before the eradication contractor arrives (well, drat!)

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That my husband is a pickier eater than I thought haha.

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...that Landrace Gardening has a level-up when you stay put (don't move house) - haha - AND you keep a trickle of new genetics coming in
...that you shouldn't be too friendly with rams, young or old, cute or overly bold
...that sourdough bread is awesome; relatively easy to make (when you know how) and delicious + feels good in the body

Currently learning: ...substack (the platform)
...power of peaceful presence. Our critters are freely mingling now and the attitude of the person responsible for them makes all the difference when introducing them to each other. Be calm.

Want to learn: ...to sow clothes.
...Does anyone know how to make laundry detergent out of wood ash?

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My tummy troubles i've had for decades are down to monosodium glutamate (started a thread in cider press for discussing MSG: https://permies.com/t/282451/Mono-Sodium-Glutamate)

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Last week I learned how to drive on sand!!

We took a vacation to the outer banks of North Carolina. My wife loves a beach vacation, but I find one ocean beach much like the next. When my wife was looking for specific beach locations, she happened upon the Outer Banks, as opposed to Gulf Shores or Florida, our usual destination. The Outer Banks were not completely booked and had houses priced for the same as Gulf Shore condos. But my wife got discouraged when she read that those houses required a 4WD as they were located 3 miles down a beach road. At that point I jumped and insisted that we had found our destination! My wife relented and booked the house and a 4WD to get to the destination.

Once we picked up the rental and packed it with our luggage for five (my youngest daughter brought her best friend), we drove 2 hours. The SUV drove very nicely and I quickly got adjusted to driving a much larger vehicle than typical. But the last 10 miles were all 30mph and surrounded by beach houses and the directions were less than ideal. We were looking for a place to stop and air down the tires to about 20 psi, but due to miscommunication inside the vehicle, we missed the spots and ended up driving right onto the beach with fully inflated tires and 2WD!

On the beach, my “navigators” wanted me to turn around and go back to get the vehicle properly prepped. That was not happening! The beach had no road—just tracks on sand that stretched from the edge of where the waves receded from sand up to the dunes. Once one gets into a set of tracks, it is hard to get out. The surface is very soft so maintaining some speed is important to avoid sinking in. As long as I kept the vehicle going more-or-less straight with speed, I was doing OK. And the tracks could get VERY bumpy sometimes—as in objects fly out of the seats and hit the ceiling kind of bumpy! This was a blast for me! I was loving it!! But the experience for my passengers ranged from fun to terror.

Eventually we approached the house, but to get there we had to turn directly into and climb up the dunes. But which one exactly was ambiguous. My “navigators” were arguing with each other about which set of directions to take and the only thing they agreed on was whatever suggestion I made was wrong. Eventually I just decided to turn where I wanted (to the terror of my navigators!), climbed up a steep dune and arrived at our destination!

So I found that driving on deep sand is somewhat like driving on snow. There are some adjustments to make, but my snow-driving experience was extremely helpful. All-in-all, I had a great time!

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Last week I learned to identify a plant, Sheep Sorrel - Rumex acetosella, in my back to Eden garden.

It's been an easy to pull weed which I am chop and dropping (or rather pluck and chucking) around my growies.

I learned Sheep Sorrel can indicate great growing conditions for blueberries!

Sure enough, last fall a church friend gave me a big blueberry bush, and it has produced fantastically in the same area as the Sheep Sorrel.

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that i can expect periodical cicada years (brood xiv has just ended here) to be catastrophic for my pears and blueberries. luckily i’ve got 17 years till the next go-round.

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Today I learned that Garbage Information Retrieval unit is GIR bots full name.

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@Eric Hanson - Yay! Drive it like it's rented

Hope you kept a sharp eye out for any shore-based seabirds. What you describe is much like our outback desert tracks, great fun, but very necessary for the passengers to hold on tight.

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I started making sourdough things in April, without an electric bread machine.
I've learned that anything that comes out of the oven, pretty or not, is edible and tasty, regardless of what others think.
From crackers to sandwich bread it all depends on environmental factors for rising or bake time, and if there isn't that time to perfect the creation, eat it anyway.
I also learned my latest rescue dog is a bread lover so all creations need to be kept out of reach. Lol

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That the big "seed" you cut out when eating a mango is not the seed, but the "husk" that is protecting a seed inside.

The seed is quite cool looking.

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true, it looks like a big bean!

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greg mosser wrote:true, it looks like a big bean!

According to Ms Pearl Sutton, some people roast and eat them. I will have to research that at some point, but currently we don't generally get enough seeds to worry about it.

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I learned that sleeping under linen is really nice in hot weather, even if the sheet is too small. We bought a "used" linen sheet, supposedly big enough. After we washed it, it definitely was NOT. Since then, it's been in the linen collection, unused. My partner is > 6' and I'm < 5', so the linen has a large range to cover.

Everything else we had clean had polyester in it and didn't appeal with the "heat wave" we've been having. So, we put the linen sheet as our top sheet, put the cotton/poly one over that. Works!

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Jennie Little wrote:... We bought a "used" linen sheet, supposedly big enough. After we washed it, it definitely was NOT. Since then, it's been in the linen collection, unused. My partner is > 6' and I'm < 5', so the linen has a large range to cover...

So the sewer in me in now thinking: keep watching for a 100% cotton or linen item at the thrift shop and make a "border" for the too small sheet. Think linen tablecloth, possibly a very large size simple dress, possibly even pants. Lay it out creatively, so it looks intentional, and you may have a thing of beauty as well as function!

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Jay Angler wrote:So the sewer in me in now thinking: keep watching for a 100% cotton or linen item at the thrift shop and make a "border" for the too small sheet. Think linen tablecloth, possibly a very large size simple dress, possibly even pants. Lay it out creatively, so it looks intentional, and you may have a thing of beauty as well as function!

That's a great idea! I have old WWII manuals about repairing stuff. One idea was to hold towels up to the light to see the weak spots, an idea I'd never considered. Sheets thinning in the middle could be turned sides to middle before they ripped, making a slightly less wide sheet, but usable. That I thought was fairly straightforward. But this one blew my mind:

"One fair sized sheet can be made to do the work of two by cutting. a line about 18" long down the center of the top -- these edges should be hemmed. The sheet can then be used double on a small bed, the slit allowing the top to be turned back over the blankets without difficulty."

My brain hurts trying to figure which way you'd cut that! Make Do and Mend, reprinted info. 978-1-78243-027-8, 2013.

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I'm actually really surprised I just learned this at my, uhm, "advanced age". Do most people know that you can flip fractions around and the answer is the same? In other words, 16% of 80 is the same number as 80% of 16. It makes doing some fractions SO much easier. Like this one. 50% of 14 is a lot easier to figure out immediately than 14% of 50. I'm going to feel silly if most people already knew this...

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Trace Oswald wrote:I'm actually really surprised I just learned this at my, uhm, "advanced age". Do most people know that you can flip fractions around and the answer is the same? In other words, 16% of 80 is the same number as 80% of 16. It makes doing some fractions SO much easier. Like this one. 50% of 14 is a lot easier to figure out immediately than 14% of 50. I'm going to feel silly if most people already knew this...

Never knew this one either! But it makes sense 10% of 100 is the same as 100% of 10...

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I've learned about the possible fold from a video on Youtube - thanks to Pete Firman. After doing this with some cardboard I can see it being quite a useful bit of knowledge to have in your back pocket for a future project.

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Today I learned a term for a Zimbabwean gardening method involving mulched basins: pfumvudza. I'm planning on taking a course next month hosted by the non-profit Equipping Farmers International which teaches this method.

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I learned that I can eat mallow leaves, and pumpkin leaves when my pumpkin plant makes too many! I also learned that leaves which are drying out from too hot of sun kind of taste cooked

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I’ve been learning to make plant-based ice creams since me and my daughter are dairy free. Alllll the recipes online seem to be coconut milk based and I am not a fan of coconut milk ice cream. I’ve been messing around with cashew, almond, and peanut milks (all made fresh), and will be trying some sunflower seed milk as well.

I made a killer peanut butter and banana ice cream (cashew and peanut milks base), which is the family favorite so far. Pineapple was also delicious. There’s a local ice cream shop that makes an ice cream with pistachio, pineapple and marshmallows that I was to recreate too.

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I learnt that sometimes we have goals and we need to experiment with them or else we'll never know whether we're really going to like them. I achieved the longtime goal of having a house concert! And now that I've done it I have no plans of doing it again, because it was wayyyyy more stressful than I thought it would be.

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Heather Sharpe,
I have merged your topic into this topic. I hope that helps.

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I learnt that cacao isn't the same thing as cocoa! I thought it was just a spelling thing, but I found out they are actually quite different products. It looks like I can easily get cacao nibs, but not cacao powder....

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