Eric Hanson wrote:And again for the record, I was not about to do this, but I had no idea that the term "free speech" had become such a trigger phrase. Sad.
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If they contest this correction, well, can't save em all.
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Greg Mamishian wrote:
Eric Hanson wrote:And again for the record, I was not about to do this, but I had no idea that the term "free speech" had become such a trigger phrase. Sad.
Eric, also for the record... I didn't sense anything the least bit disruptive in anything you said. On the contrary I find your comments to be quite evenhanded as well as levelheaded.
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S Bengi wrote:
That said in general, the laws says I have to be nice to individuals and groups and I cant provoke people.
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Tyler Ludens wrote:
S Bengi wrote:
That said in general, the laws says I have to be nice to individuals and groups and I cant provoke people.
I am not aware of that law. I've never heard of it.
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Rebecca Norman wrote:
I think it's often possible to just launch into describing one's own knowledge, experience or references on the issue without saying "I disagree" or a synonym. For example:
Strawman wrote:
35 MPH is hurricane force winds!
Rebecca Norman wrote:
My location gets 35 mile per hour winds pretty often, and they are not horribly strong or damaging. The hurricane that hit my area in XX year supposedly had 80 MPH winds. I found this chart of hurricane wind speeds on Wikipedia.
My understanding is that hurricanes are defined by {whatever authority}, whose chart says... {link}
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Eric Hanson wrote:
Greg Mamishian wrote:
Eric Hanson wrote:And again for the record, I was not about to do this, but I had no idea that the term "free speech" had become such a trigger phrase. Sad.
Eric, also for the record... I didn't sense anything the least bit disruptive in anything you said. On the contrary I find your comments to be quite evenhanded as well as levelheaded.
Greg, thanks for the kind comment,
Eric
What the British say | What the British mean | What others understand |
I hear what you say | I disagree and do not want to discuss it further | He accepts my point of view |
With the greatest respect... | I think you are an idiot | He is listening to me |
That's not bad | That's good | That's poor |
That is a very brave proposal | You are insane | He thinks I have courage |
Quite good | A bit disappointing | Quite good |
I would suggest... | Do it or be prepared to justify yourself | Think about the idea, but do what you like |
Oh, incidentally/by the way | The primary purpose of our discussion is... | That is not very important |
I was a bit disappointed that | I am annoyed that | It doesn't really matter |
Very interesting | That is clearly nonsense | They are impressed |
I'll bear it in mind | I've forgotten it already | They will probably do it |
I'm sure it's my fault | It's your fault | Why do they think it was their fault? |
You must come for dinner | It's not an invitation, I'm just being polite | I will get an invitation soon |
I almost agree | I don't agree at all | He's not far from agreement |
I only have a few minor comments | Please re-write completely | He has found a few typos |
Could we consider some other options? | I don't like your idea | They have not yet decided |
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What the Finns say | What most Finns mean in my experience | ] |
I hear what you say | I hear what you say, you don't need to shout | |
With the greatest respect... | I'm trying to disagree politely | |
That's not bad | That's good | |
That is a very brave proposal | That is a very brave proposal | |
Quite good | Very good | |
I would suggest... | I'm pretty sure this is the way you should do it, but it's your project not mine | |
Oh, incidentally/by the way | Another important point | |
I was a bit disappointed that | I was disappointed that | |
Very interesting | Extremely interesting | |
I'll bear it in mind | I'll try to remember/ I don't know what to say because I haven't thought about it much | |
I'm sure it's my fault | I think it's partly my fault and partly your fault, but you need to acknowledge your own part, I don't want to criticize you | |
You must come for dinner | I want to invite you for dinner | |
I almost agree | I agree in part | |
I only have a few minor comments | I only have a few things I don't like, most of it was good | |
Could we consider some other options? | I don't like that idea |
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Nina Jay wrote:In response to Gail Gardner's wish for charts for other countries that speak and write their own versions of English:
A very unofficial table, based on my experiences.
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Gail Gardner wrote:
The one thing I know about people from India is that no matter how many times I mention it to them, they will persist in calling me "dear". I have tried explaining that I personally find it inappropriate to have a total stranger using a term of endearment - but it seems to be a particularly ingrained habit there.
It does make it easy to tell where they are from on first contact, though.
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Gail Gardner wrote:
Nina Jay wrote:In response to Gail Gardner's wish for charts for other countries that speak and write their own versions of English:
A very unofficial table, based on my experiences.
It sounds like we wouldn't have too many misunderstandings there. Even in the United States, there are very different ways of saying things. The most common one is to be very businesslike and professional with peers, potential clients, or people they consider important, but not so polite with those someone considers to be under them or employed by them.
The one thing I know about people from India is that no matter how many times I mention it to them, they will persist in calling me "dear". I have tried explaining that I personally find it inappropriate to have a total stranger using a term of endearment - but it seems to be a particularly ingrained habit there.
It does make it easy to tell where they are from on first contact, though.
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it is beaten into their heads - sometimes, not entirely metaphorically - from their first phrases and social interactions. It is an important part of the societal structure, and while it becomes ingrained and automatic, it is each individuals personal reminder to treat other with kindness and respect.
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