Mike Haasl wrote:Hi Craig, thanks for reading the article!
I know of at least one Otis in Canada.
I don't know of any land transfers but it's quite possible that if one happened, the people involved may not want to make it public or tell me. I know some PEPpers have been contacted by Otises.
I like physical badges too but we couldn't figure out how to do it...
Permies.com records and displays your badges (see my signature line below my post)
As for the badges. There are a few ways it can be done.
1. Collect and make a file with all the designs files in Google drive. I think jpeg is good. But can find out.
2. Have a embroidery make them per order, or bulk.
3. Offer them for sale or a service for people to buy directly from suppliers.
Get me a few Pic files and I can start looking at quotes.
Can you check with @Paul to see what the status of land is, and or if any had actually gotten land?
I know that we are still being contacted by otises who are frustrated that more people have not already cleared PEP4 (let alone PEP3 or PEP2). The original plan was that otises would not contact peppers until they cleared PEP4. However, I know that the otises are impatient. I have heard rumors that some people that have not even cleared PEP2 are being contacted by otises.
I have suggested to the impatient otises to at least wait until peppers have completed PEP2.
Zero people have completed PEP2.
My impression is that the first few people that clear PEP2 will have their pick of many otises.
Those that choose to start after others have gotten land, will probably need to go all the way through PEP4 in order to get land.
Of course, I think that this is a really good time to point out that the program is free. And it is a new program. I get the impression that there are a few people working on hard on getting to PEP2 so that they can start talking to the otises.
My guess is that this year there will be several connections made.
I've been contacted by 36 Otises so far about the program. I can safely assume there are many more out there who just aren't contacting Paul or me because they don't need to.
Yes! I can talk to a group of 30 people about SKIP and usually at least one Otis in there says "Hey, that's my exact situation. Great idea!".
So I can recruit an Otis in 45 minutes without trying very hard. Getting someone to PEP2 takes a hell of a lot more than 45 minutes so my focus has mainly been on trying to talk to the future SKIPpers at conferences and events.
paul wheaton wrote:I think that if we connect 100 skippers to 100 otises, we would then have about 3000 otises and 300 skippers getting past PEP1.
It just seems like the number of otises is larger than the number of skippers getting that far.
I'm thinking, too much most times đ
Than a Otis University (illegal to say) or an Academy 2 to 4 years of Committed individuals, with major of SKIP done locally and things that can be done local be completed at LABS.
A program that gets support from its membership.
Keep a free program, yet have a paid subscription and or tuition. For those more Committed.
The idea of match making would also be good. For it would give the Skippper a goal and incentive to know they can get a certain property, before hand and on completion. Also they could have a place to do SKIP on the property. As their time and work means something.
I was talking with a young farmer and seems he wants to sell everything for $200k land, house, tractor, animals, etc.
It maybe a good opportunity. Have to look into it more. Seems the LAND qualifies đ
Permies has wiki pages. This thread is a "wiki page with comments"
The skip book is available with a 50% affiliate fee. If you scroll to the bottom of any page, there is a link that says "affiliate program". All of my stuff is available with a 50% affiliate fee.
paul wheaton wrote:Permies has wiki pages. This thread is a "wiki page with comments"
The skip book is available with a 50% affiliate fee. If you scroll to the bottom of any page, there is a link that says "affiliate program". All of my stuff is available with a 50% affiliate fee.
Diana Sproul wrote:How do we start? I did sign up. I didnât see any answer in email.
You've already done the first step, which is creating an account here on permies!
The second step is to do a Badge Bit and take the required pictures while you do it. it's nice to start with a super easy Badge Bit so you can get a feel for the submission process (Here's a list of Badge Bits that people think are the easiest).
Once you've done your Badge Bit and taken the required pictures (&/or video), you just post it as a reply on that Badge Bit's thread, and click the "Submit for BB Certification," rather than the normal "Submit" button you used when making this post.
Welcome to permies Diana!
You might find the tinkering with this site forum useful too. There are links at the top to how to use permies - and if you have any trouble with the site itself, that forum is the best one to ask general question in.
Good luck with your SKIP adventures
Nicole Alderman wrote:
You've already done the first step, which is creating an account here on permies!
The second step is to do a Badge Bit and take the required pictures while you do it. it's nice to start with a super easy Badge Bit so you can get a feel for the submission process (Here's a list of Badge Bits that people think are the easiest).
Once you've done your Badge Bit and taken the required pictures (&/or video), you just post it as a reply on that Badge Bit's thread, and click the "Submit for BB Certification," rather than the normal "Submit" button you used when making this post.
Hi! Thanks for the summary and link.
I've been loving this site for the past couple months and I never really looked at this badge-stuff until now. I'm not in need of inheriting land as long as all goes well with the transition I'm making. I'm in suburban NJ at the moment, leaving my apartment. My husband and I are renovating the upstairs of my stepmother's house to make it a "mother/daughter" because she can't live alone since my dad died. Along with this, we are acquiring his former hunting cabin in rural NY on 50+ acres, and we'll be working on repairing that and making it into our future home.
SO... I just realized there are lots of badge bits that I've already been doing!
I skimmed through them in case I can document them as they come up. Today I did my first: changing a locking doorknob.
I'm about to go post it. I never went to Girl Scouts or earned anything like badges, and I'm a child at heart, so I am probably a bit more excited than most people think I should be over this, lol! I can't wait to do more!
Oh, I have a suggestion: It's to put the main post of each aspect (the post that lists every badge bit) at the top left with the 'best posts', or somehow pin it where it's super obvious. Sometimes they get buried and they can be a bit annoying to find, which might make people frustrated. If we can easily find the list of requirements, it's easier to be excited about it and look through them to find what we might be able to do next. Just a thought!
This might be what you are requesting. All the BB's.
The main thing on all of them is good documentation. Take many pictures. Before, during, & after. That will cover a large percentage of the requirements.
This might be what you are requesting. All the BB's.
The main thing on all of them is good documentation. Take many pictures. Before, during, & after. That will cover a large percentage of the requirements.
Thanks! And yes, that link does it. I was looking at each individual PEP forum, and needing to scroll through them, if you get what I mean. I'll bookmark the link you gave.
I've got my 6x7x7 hugel built, and I'm currently looking for the Sepp Holzer grains to plant in it. I'd like to claim the free seeds for reaching BB20 if that's still possible, but I'm also ok to buy the required amount for the gardening BB.
Please moosage me if you have the seeds and I'll send my address and funds.
I've got my 6x7x7 hugel built, and I'm currently looking for the Sepp Holzer grains to plant in it. I'd like to claim the free seeds for reaching BB20 if that's still possible, but I'm also ok to buy the required amount for the gardening BB.
Please moosage me if you have the seeds and I'll send my address and funds.
Hey James, PM sent! For anyone here in a similar boat, reply in https://permies.com/wiki/144618/ and we can celebrate your BB20, while the seeds remain available.
Hello there. I just got here and starting to explore... Here are some words for the search bar - Otessa, Otis, SKIP, PEP.
I have a half-acre property in the rain shadow of the Olympic Peninsula right next to a nearly pristine, state park forest. I just bought it...and the SKIP book. I got the SKIP book for myself mostly, and plan to use it for PEI (Permaculture Experienced by Ingrid). This location is a microclimate within a microclimate with even smaller microclimates.
I am recently "retired" (aka not drinking the corporate Kool-Aid anymore - walked away from a 30-year career in tech - I resigned for many reasons.). I've lived off-grid in my van for up to a year and a half as a digital nomad, stayed in one of Mike Reynold's Earthships (closed loop systems really make my brain tingle), I have built stuff, and am reasonably versed in organic gardening/homesteading. New to permaculture. An introverted synesthete I prefer peace and quiet.
I need some help as I only have two hands and I am getting old(er). I have a full hookup for a tiny house as well as a sleeping loft available in the main house which is only 538 square feet itself. I am considering the main house as the commons where cooking, bathing, and Art happen. I have already installed a rain catchment system which collects 550 gallons of water in just 6 days. It could potentially collect 4000 gallons of water but I'm not "there" yet. There is an old wood stove that I would like to replace with a rocket mass cook stove. It's in a nook about four feet by eight feed wide, and I would like to keep the final build within that space.
I stay in the she-shed which I plan to make completely off-grid with solar, a composting toilet and a gray water system. There is a tourist season here so I may rent the she-shed during the summer but stay in the van on the property.
My preference would be to try this with one, calm, quiet, capable, TRUSTWORTHY person who doesn't have access to land of their own yet. The property is mortgaged so there is no opportunity to inherit it. I'm offering a place to build a SKIP portfolio. I'm not sure what the procedure is for matching people? (I find this website hard to navigate.)
Is it required to have PEP1 before going for PEP2 and so on? Or can a person just go for PEP4 assuming they can meet all requirements and just skip PEP1 2 and 3? And vise versa...just go for PEP 2 or 3.
Nope. You can do BBs from higher levels but you can't get that badge until you have the badges before it done. So you couldn't get the Wood and Straw badges needed for PEP2 without having gotten the Sand badges.
Is it required to have PEP1 before going for PEP2 and so on? Or can a person just go for PEP4 assuming they can meet all requirements and just skip PEP1 2 and 3? And vise versa...just go for PEP 2 or 3.
Survey says:
As you can read in the answer given before you'll have to start with PEP 1, and so on. But
... of course you can make your plans for the next few years so you 'go for PEP 4' in one straight line (including PEP 1, 2 and 3) :-)
Is there something for the property owner side? E.g. different properties and owners might require or desire different skills. Maybe one needs a lot of gardening, while another one more lumber or natural building.
It could also be useful to indicate a desired skill level, e.g. "reach a PEP2 including high levels in gardening, animal husbandry, and natural building. Specifically required to be able to grow X tree and Y plant and build say a willow feeder and stack firewood."
That might give the PEPpers a direction to work in, and a goal?
Hi Paul I'm really excited I found skip and am ready to start completing bb's but had a question. My Wife and I complete a lot of the bb's regularlly. If we work together on bb's will that be an issue with getting them approved if we worked together?
Thank you
Have a blessed week.
Gotta be separate.
A bit like going to harvard and saying "we wanna get this degree-thing together!" And you gotta pay harvard super big bucks. At least with skip, it is a free thing. And if harvard can figure out an answer with their freaky big money, i feel okay not trying to figure it out for a free program.
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