Hubby printed me off a sheet from the Canadian Gov't a while ago as we were trying to get some idea of how many grams of biochar* would offset how many liters of gasoline. To quote the line that follows a very similar answer to Phil's, "This is how 1 L (liter) of gasoline, which contains about 0.63 kg of carbon, can produce about 2.3 kg of CO2." I post this for all the permies who don't speak "Imperial Measurements".Phil Swindler wrote:Depending on exactly what hydrocarbon molecules are in the gasoline, 19 pounds of CO2 could be pretty close.
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David Wieland wrote:Thanks for that explanation, Phil. It really helps explain why CO2 is the favourite scare gas of climate alarmists or anyone with animus against combustion. A little goes a long way in enabling reference to tons. Of course, the amount of carbon itself isn't being increased, so talking about "tons of carbon" is misleading. But then again, we're living in an age of misleading claims and campaigns, so the best we can do is to ignore the scares and to focus on our "backyards".
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Jay Angler wrote: I post this for all the permies who don't speak "Imperial Measurements".
George Yacus wrote:
Jay Angler wrote: I post this for all the permies who don't speak "Imperial Measurements".
You know, just because we measure our Force in lbs doesn't mean we're still a part of the Empire, sister. The full Imperial system actually came *after* the Rebels gained independence.
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Jay Angler wrote:
Hubby printed me off a sheet from the Canadian Gov't a while ago as we were trying to get some idea of how many grams of biochar* would offset how many liters of gasoline. To quote the line that follows a very similar answer to Phil's, "This is how 1 L (liter) of gasoline, which contains about 0.63 kg of carbon, can produce about 2.3 kg of CO2." I post this for all the permies who don't speak "Imperial Measurements".Phil Swindler wrote:Depending on exactly what hydrocarbon molecules are in the gasoline, 19 pounds of CO2 could be pretty close.
* we determined that if you can make biochar out of waste materials like our locally invasive English Ivy, it may not reduce your personal carbon footprint, but it will offset it. The problem is the solution! (The Ivy's killing some trees we'd like to keep.)
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The discussion came up in the thread about making biochar in pots in a wood stove here: https://permies.com/t/44894/Containers-making-biochar-wood-burning#1187463So, what did you come up with as a biochar carbon offset equivalency for burning 1 litre of gasoline, Jay?
Much of my recent reading has been about the benefits of biochar for carbon capture and long term storage, so I got curious. Hubby found a Government of Canada document which is intended to educate the public about the amount of CO2 produced by a liter of gasoline. It claimed that 1 liter of gasoline contains about 0.63 kg of carbon. So we weighed the results of one pot of wood that had "cooked" in our wood stove and the result weighed 0.350 kg. Since our local town is a round trip of 10-11 kilometers and we have a fairly fuel efficient car, it will take two rounds of filling and cooking in the pot shown to offset a trip to town. Of course that's simplified the whole issue a great deal, as there's a lot of CO2 produced before I ever buy my liter of gas, not to mention all that went into building the car in the first place, but Hubby figured that our char making was totally insignificant, and now is much more convinced that it is worth making the effort because the biochar is useful mixed in with our duck bedding, mixed in with our compost pile, and from both those places, eventually it's added to our soil to create and maintain fertility, as well as off setting at least part of our fossil fuel footprint.
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Jay Angler wrote: I'm hoping to use it to help the Municipal Counsel resist the pressure to increase the urbanization of our Municipality by using the positive benefits of soil building, water management, tree growing etc to help the climate, rather than more roads and roofs decreasing our ability to manage climate change.
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I have long suggested that we need a new economic model as well as an overhaul of planning cities if we're going to help people reduce their carbon footprint.For anybody interested in this topic, I can highly recommend the channel "Not only bikes" that takes a look at good / bad city planning and what makes a town strong.
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Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:
He didn't go into biochar or capturing carbon in soils, but only talked about trees and kelp for biological examples, and I don't know about the soil capture research to talk about that intelligently, but the point it me is that industry has messed this up and so industry should clean up its mess, while us gardeners can just clean up our own personal contributions and emissions. And that it isn't either-or. I think it would definitely help the public discourse to hear a leading carbon capture researcher saying "this doesn't get you out of handling your emissions."
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Anita Martin wrote:
These are two of the episodes I found really revealing:
- about street planning concepts in the US vs. Europe
and
- why zoning laws contradict humane and sustainable living conditions.
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If nothing else, it saves a heck of a lot of money. That gives you two options - 1. spend that money upgrading other things like buying materials to build ginormous water tanks for capturing rain-water or hiring equipment to build ponds or hugels or build a root cellar to store your produce or other carbon lowering projects.Mike Haasl wrote:I think there is a carbon balance to be struck between buying a new electric car and keeping an old car well maintained. I'm not sure how that math could be done but if you got 33% more life out of your existing vehicle, after three vehicles you saved the entire production of a whole fourth car. That's gotta be huge. Sure you were getting 30 mpg instead of 40 mpg over that time period (made up numbers) but might it be better in the overall carbon math equation?
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Mike Haasl wrote:I think there is a carbon balance to be struck between buying a new electric car and keeping an old car well maintained. I'm not sure how that math could be done but if you got 33% more life out of your existing vehicle, after three vehicles you saved the entire production of a whole fourth car. That's gotta be huge. Sure you were getting 30 mpg instead of 40 mpg over that time period (made up numbers) but might it be better in the overall carbon math equation?
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paul wheaton wrote:I want to talk about things we can do, in our backyards, to make a better world.
Some people say ... well, most people say ... that there is nothing a person can do about it. And I think that any one person can, pretty easily, cover their own footprint and the footprint of another. And an industrious and generous person can cover the footprints of a dozen people. It's all about giving those people a list of recipes. And this thread is the foundation for those recipes.
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paul wheaton wrote:Google just told me that the current average carbon footprint per kwh is 0.92 pounds.
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Stacking functions - isn't that a permaculture principle. It doesn't just work with plants!Phil Swindler wrote:
paul wheaton wrote:Google just told me that the current average carbon footprint per kwh is 0.92 pounds.
I guess I'm below average on this one. We have photoelectric panels on our roof.
Plus, it makes it easier to keep the house cool with that area of the roof being shaded.
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