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Oh the things I waste time on when I should be getting my work done.  Like reading and posting to the Permies boards.

Lately, I've been on something of a Beatles kick, watching dozens of hours of stuff on the Fab Four, and then all kinds of videos about Paul McCartney and Wings.  Youtube is an addiction -- there -- I said it.  It just KNOWS what I want to watch and keeps suggesting better and better, and more and more obscure stuff to watch.  For a guy who has an input need, it's my drug of choice.

What are your guilty pleasures?
 
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Youtube is mine as well.  Every time I watched something, it drags me down the rabbit hole to new and interesting things that I just have to know about.
 
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Ben and Jerry's 'Cherry Garcia' ice cream
 
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For me it is researching all kinds of things to build, like converting my backhoe into a front shovel, or making a homemade combine to thresh small grains. It is not a horrible waste of time as it keeps my mind active, but most of the time I never had the money to build the implements that I design.
 
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Like Marco, I like to listen to music, just not on youtube.  I am a fan of the Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", "Yellow Submarine" and some others.

I like Lionel Ritchie though I can't remember the name of my favorite.

My all time favorite which I have not heard of in years is Crowded House's "Don't Dream its Over"

Another favorite is Cat Stevens' "Morning Has Broken"

And then there is anything Crystal Gayle!

On another note, I wish we didn't live in the boondocks so I could have Chicken Fried Steak that I didn't make.
 
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Fun topic!

My current failing -- black cherry cream soda. I seldom consume sugar in foods. But I have a weakness for black cherry soda.  So now this may be weird, but I will open a bottle of soda on Monday, then spend the week sipping tiny sips, sinfully savoring get every molecule. The bottle can last me 5 days. It's the one sugar item I haven't been able to totally kick. Gosh, my brain endorphins rage when I sip the stuff. Even one small sip will do it.
 
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Ok, my guilty pleasure should probably be one of my many food splurges....like lots of great cheese, Ben and Jerry's Pistachio ice cream (when I eat the whole thing in one sitting), or snacking from my drawer full of chocolate at work.....but I'm a little broken in that none of that makes me feel guilty!  No, my guilty pleasure (don't tell anyone) is watching shows like iZombie with my son's girl friend.  My wife laughs at me for watching "teen girl" shows.  Don't judge me too harshly!!!  (there is no sport in it)

(Perhaps I shared too much....another guilty pleasure of mine in the summer is Friday night sangrias, so my judgement is a little off right now)
 
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Catalog shopping. I rarely ever buy anything, but I can flip through catalogs, for hours, if I let myself, lol. And, weird things that just hit me out of the blue - again, rarely. Maybe once a year, I'll crave a Little Debbie oatmeal cream pie, a 'snowball' (chocolate, cream-filled, marshmallow & coconut covered cupcake), or a raspberry 'Zinger'. That's about as often as I'll cave to the crave - maybe once a year, and I always feel sick to my stomach, afterward, lol.
 
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MOXIE!

I could give up sex before I gave up Moxie (a brand of soda for those unaware).
 
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Travis Johnson wrote:MOXIE!

I could give up sex before I gave up Moxie (a brand of soda for those unaware).



Every year or two I drink a Moxie to remember....it always tastes sooo good at the beginning, but I've never been quite able to like the aftertaste.  My dad loves it and I keep wondering if my tastes will change as I get older and if I'll start liking the aftertaste.  So far no dice.  

Last year I gave my dad a jar of Moxie jelly.  So many fun Moxie gifts due to the group of die hard fans like Travis! :) (thank you Travis)
 
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There is a Thai grocery store near us in Anaheim that sells all manor of stuff from Thailand.  My kids and I walk around with those little red plastic shopping baskets and toss in stuff -- much of which we have no idea what it is.  Any here read Thai?

In the back is the freezer, and in the freezer is the pot at the end of the rainbow: coconut ice-cream.  It's expensive -- like $22 a gal.  Worth EVERY PENNY.  It lasts at our house about 2 weeks.  My kids are like little badgers, digging in with spoons.  They don't even bother with a bowl.  Even now, with my son in grad school, he'll come home on the weekend and I'll hear him in the freezer, rummaging around, looking for the Thai ice cream.

My other guilty pleasure is a pipe of good cherry tobacco when the weather turns cool.  I'll sit in the back of my property on a teak bench, wrapped in an old flannel shirt under the spread of my old avocado tree and puff away.  Or if I can get one, I'll puff on a cigar -- I love those mild Romeo and Juliet stogies from Cuba.  I can get them when I'm up in Canada.  I'll have maybe 3 a year.  Any more and it would be neither guilty, nor a pleasure.
 
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Marco, my dad used to blend 2pts Borkum Riff whiskey flavored tobacco with 1 part of the cheapest cherry flavored one he could find. The whole family loved it so much, whenever something stunk up the house (which was frequent, with 6 kids, 2 parents, various dogs, and tons of kith & kin in and out, all the time!), inevitably, we'd hand him his pipe, tobacco, & lighter. It smelled so good, we treated him & his pipe like walking incense, lol
 
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Carla Burke wrote:Borkum Riff whiskey flavored tobacco with 1 part of the cheapest cherry flavored one he could find.

It smelled so good, we treated him & his pipe like walking incense.



Smells like home.  

My dear bride will not let me smoke indoors, and truth be told, I don't want that stale smell in the house 2 days later.  But it is lovely to pull an old sweater, flannel or hoodie out that I haven't worn in a year or two, and smell on it the fragrance of old pipe smoke.

That, and butter rum lifesavers, always remind me of my maternal grandfather.  
 
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Marco Banks wrote:

Carla Burke wrote:Borkum Riff whiskey flavored tobacco with 1 part of the cheapest cherry flavored one he could find.

It smelled so good, we treated him & his pipe like walking incense.



Smells like home.  

My dear bride will not let me smoke indoors, and truth be told, I don't want that stale smell in the house 2 days later.  But it is lovely to pull an old sweater, flannel or hoodie out that I haven't worn in a year or two, and smell on it the fragrance of old pipe smoke.

That, and butter rum lifesavers, always remind me of my maternal grandfather.  



Oh, the bittersweet nostalgia... I have my dad's favorite pipe, and his old Zippo. The sweet smells are gone, but I can 'almost' smell it... and him, when I want to. Just close my eyes, remember the feel of his hairy arms, under his old flannel shirt, while I'd snuggle up to him, and sniff in the scent of him - all fresh air, honest, fresh sweat, his pipe, and the smokey smell of the woodstove, and his rumbly, deep laughter, at something goofy I'd say, just to hear it... Damn, I miss that man.
 
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I don't believe in feeling guilty about pleasure. In the spirit of the question, though, my decadent, trashy entertainment is reality cooking shows. My favourite is MasterChef Australia, but I'll even watch the suuuper trashy American Hell's Kitchen.

My husband just couldn't mock me enough the first couple times me saw me watching one of these. It's the type of thing I'd usually be totally scornful of :)
 
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Mad science is my favorite guilty pleasure.
Trying to make something that is unlikely to work,uneeded ,or both.
There is always something more important I could spend the time and money on, but those things simply don't scratch the itch.

Could be a hydroponic hardwood tree cloner, could be pizza dough dumplings.
It's why I search out cheap and free materials.
If it's cheap or free,  I can afford to ruin or waste it pursuit of knowledge and thrills.

Just built a storage bench that's too small for anything I would want to put in it.
Didn't measure,  just went to town with a sawzall, brad/staple nail gun and pallet wood.
I'll turn it into a low tunnel of sorts, but even if becomes firewood , I had good fun doing it,  and learned what was possible with fasteners and pallet slats.


 
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I'm with Travis on this one. Researching things to do myself, learning new skills and expanding my knowledge of how things work.

After that is Anime. My wife doesn't understand it, but I love it. The artistry and skill in it, the ones made back when it was all hand drawn. The good ones will really grip you and pull you into the story. There is a lot of garbage, but every now and then I run across one that is outstanding. Ghost in the Shell (1995) and subsequent series and animated movies are currently top on my list. The exploration of the advancement of technology to the point of being capable of putting a persons brain into a cyborg body and the societal challenges associated with that are fascinating to me. And terrifying. It certainly drives the question of "Just because we can do something, does that mean we should do it?" forward.

Anyway, there it is. My secret laid bare.
 
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I do admit that I have an out of control research implement fetish! :-)

Lately it has been researching combines. I can do everything with small grains except harvest them, and while I cannot buy a combine, I thought, "maybe I can make my own." But combines have not changed much in 50 years, yet I can think of plenty of different ways to accomplish the same task. By that I mean, I look at each step in the process, then think of a way where one step could eliminate several steps. For example, a combine cuts the grain 90 degrees to its travel, but if they put the head so it was cutting at 45 degrees instead, forward momentum would automatically move the cut grain back eliminating (3) mechanical processes of the combine. That is far more efficient. But then I think, "if I thought of this, why hasn't John Deere or Case who have millions of dollars in research thought of the same thing? They are way smarter than I am, and have millions to do testing, and what do I know about combines?" (Nothing, in case you are wondering). But that is how I research building equipment.

But if it is okay to admit another person's guilty pleasure, without question my wife's is...SHOES. At last count Katie had something like 80 pairs, and at one time belonged to (3) shoe-of-the-month clubs. (Yes the do have such a thing). Me? I have (2) pairs, but in a house with (5) women; we have enough shoes to swamp a battleship.

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Sitting quietly in the barnyard with the animals and enjoying them, without thinking about all the farm stuff I need to do...  napping with the goats in the sunshine... throwing the to-do list out the window and just being present in nature
 
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Youtube has learned exactly what I like, although it's actually a wide range. No matter what I start out watching , it offers me a chance to view one punch fights or to investigate the latest conspiracy theories. Sometimes it just offers me a whole menu of medical malarkey debunking.

All of these subjects are huge rabbit holes. There is a lot of drift. I could start out watching Ali and Frazier fighting for their lives , and three clicks later, it's a thief being pummeled by an unknown store clerk. Good times , and then I realize it's 1:00 a.m..
 
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After harvesting honey I end up with a 5 gallon container with lots of honey still on the sides. Rather than washing that away or making a big mess trying to scrape it out I hold the container upside down & drizzle honey over a bowl of ice cream & fruit. Completely decadent. Or onto fresh baked bread. For about a week until it's all gone. The smell alone is incredible.
 
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I'm with Travis and Caleb on this. Research. I will look something up, get lost for hours, decide exactly what product would do exactly what I want, get all the measurements, work out the details, what kind of hardware does that need? Look all THAT up too! Ooh, don't forget the special tools! Get it all designed in my head, close the browser and that's the end of it. I learn enough that if I decide to do it in the future, I know what all the specs mean and such, but seriously, some of the stuff I rabbithole on, I'd have to have an extra couple of million dollars and a well trained crew to do. I have neither.

Or plasma physics, or the anatomy of the brain structure, or the sex lives of eels, the history of the catapult, how to build an Archimedes screw, the physics of cathedral buttressing, the chemistry of dyeing glass...

It's fun, and it's a brain break for me against the reality of my life, so that sort of makes it worth it, but I really need to work on the real world instead.
 
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About 25 years ago, my brother in law crawled down the get rich quick rabbit hole. Computers were new to him and to most people. He was like a newborn baby in his naivety. Getting Nigerian princes out of jail, spending a small amount to unlock a very rich bank account or paying to put fuel in a large container ship containing untold riches. All you had to do was help to bring it into port and everyone who purchased fuel would get their cut of the bounty.

He stopped going to work and made these pursuits his full time job. After a couple years he slowed down considerably but never really gave up on the idea that he could get something for nothing... A few years later, one of his insurance fraud things paid off. He pretended to be blind for two years, after a minor traffic incident. This gave him almost 2 million dollars and it reactivated his interest in money for nothing schemes. He squandered much of his windfall on various scams and bad investments available at the touch of a button.
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It started out as a guilty pleasure , but evolved into a full-time obsession, and finally as a means of canceling any chance his family had of improving themselves through his fraudulent activities.
 
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Guilty Pleasures:

1. The ‘Spider’ Web – one link leads to another, then another, then … it’s 4am and I need to get two hours sleep then go to work!
2. Dark chocolate – 85% cocoa and up
3. Vintage Port/Muscat (like kick-arse Madeira) – 15 years and older

No guessing what I request when asked about Christmas presents!
 
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Travis Johnson wrote:But if it is okay to admit another person's guilty pleasure, without question my wife's guilty pleasure is...SHOES. At last count Katie had something like 80 pairs, and at one time belonged to (3) shoe-of-the-month clubs. (Yes the do have such a thing). Me? I have (2) pairs, but in a house with (5) women; we have enough shoes to swamp a battleship.



After a little reflection, I realized this is not actually proper. Not just in making confessions for Katie's guilty pleasures, but because her shoes do have some practicality on the homestead.

When it comes to plant the garden, Katie will put on a pair of her stiletto pumps, and walking toe-to-heel, in as a straight a line as possible, and make small, round holes in the tilled earth several inches deep, every eight inches. I then go behind her and drop in seed into the perforated holes that her shoes make. This is perfect for such crops as corn, or squash...bigger seeds in other words, that need some sort of consistent spacing. If we need a little more space between plants, I just drop the seed in every other hole she makes with her stilettos. I have seen several tools that were designed to plant seeds like this, but this works pretty well for us without having to buy anything extra.

Note: She has also worn a pair of her high heels when rolling out dough for cooking. The extra height it gives her allows her to be taller and more comfortably roll the dough with more pressure since we do not have a counter that is higher just for that purpose like in some high end kitchens. A pair of high heels (or high heeled clogs) allows her to do this without dedicating a special counter in her kitchen.

Yep: whoever thought the place to go for gardening and kitchen supplies would be Payless? :-)




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I thought of another guilty pleasure for me: Swedish Fish (the candy).
 
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Dale Hodgins wrote:About 25 years ago, my brother in law crawled down the get rich quick rabbit hole. Computers were new to him and to most people. He was like a newborn baby in his naivety. Getting Nigerian princes out of jail, spending a small amount to unlock a very rich bank account or paying to put fuel in a large container ship containing untold riches. All you had to do was help to bring it into port and everyone who purchased fuel would get their cut of the bounty.

He stopped going to work and made these pursuits his full time job. After a couple years he slowed down considerably but never really gave up on the idea that he could get something for nothing... A few years later, one of his insurance fraud things paid off. He pretended to be blind for two years, after a minor traffic incident. This gave him almost 2 million dollars and it reactivated his interest in money for nothing schemes. He squandered much of his windfall on various scams and bad investments available at the touch of a button.
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It started out as a guilty pleasure , but evolved into a full-time obsession, and finally as a means of canceling any chance his family had of improving themselves through his fraudulent activities.



Man, do I have a scam for him! There are some new buses that have external airbags, so you can jump in front of them, and the airbags will save you. Perfect way to pick up a 'brain injury' for a massive payoff, without any real risk!

For only 10,000 USD in bitcoin, I will identify the correct bus for him. Payment in advance. Obviously a limited window here, once everyone knows about the airbags the insurance company policies will be updated and there will be too much scrutiny, he'll need to act fast!

(I got some warm fuzzies hearing the jackass managed to lose his stolen money... not feeling guilty about them though!)
 
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His only big payday after years of scamming , came about a year after my sister died with a brain tumour. He kept her and the kids in relative poverty for years.  After acquiring the money, there still wasn't one dime for his children's education. I learned this when discussing educational debt with my niece. The money came the year she started university and wasn't gone until about five years later.
 
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Thank goodness my only guilty pleasures are permie-compatible....

accumulating seeds. I need them all, just in case, because next season is going to be The Best Season Ever.
accumluating plants. Especially edible ones.
accumulating yarn. Then every so often I have a craft extravaganza and surprise someone with something they weren't expecting.
and accumulating knowledge. I get paid to research, and sometimes it`s hard to turn it off. Like Pearl says, everything from soup to nuts (and eels and bats and who knows what else). It's good for keeping that sense of wonder alive (and you never know when these things will come in handy).

I also love homesteading/farming videos on YouTube, but my rule is I can only watch it when I`m exercising. I usually have 90 minutes on the treadmill each day, so it works out well.
 
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Yep. I accumulate knowledge and seeds, both of which I can only use sparingly.

Oh, I know exactly how I would influence the design of a heavy-lift solar cargo airship, and how I would sequester ocean carbon, filter out and deal with plastics in the oceans, and deal with the imminent climate refugee crisis. Likewise, I have a store of thousands of seeds of every type I could possibly grow where I am. More ideas and seeds than I could ever use myself.

But they're compelling for their promise and potential, and should I ever need them, they will be there.

It's frustrating that I have as yet been unable to capitalise on these things, but it is certainly not a cause of guilt.

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Uh oh. Is seed hoarding a guilty pleasure? If so, add that to my list... :D  Quick glance at my inventory list shows ... um... LOTS.
 
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Is the acquisition of tools considered a guilty pleasure?  If so, I'm convicted.

Years ago when I was first married, my dear bride would ask me to fix this or that --- or if I couldn't fix it, would I hire someone who could.   That felt like something of a challenge to my manhood, and eager to please her, I would tackle projects for which I had no training or background.

I quickly learned that if you've got the right tool, it makes the job 90% easier.  It wasn't difficult to convince her because she was usually out there beside me, working on whatever it was that we were building/fixing/creating.  At the end of the project, we'd total the receipts and realize that we'd spent 70% of what someone would have charged us to do the same job even including the tools we needed to purchase.   But we now had the tools left over for the next job.  It cost less to do it ourselves and we were slowly building up great tool collection.

I learned a couple of things:

1.  Don't skimp on tools.  Buy it once, and you should never need to buy that tool again.  Well . . . ok, you occasionally wear stuff out like cordless drills or a hand grinder.  But all in all, if you buy quality, you'll not regret it.

2.  Look at what the pros use and buy that.  Harbor Freight tools (in my opinion) are crap.  Get professional tools from Lowes or Home Depot.  Ask guys who do construction for a living: what should I buy?  I've got a set of Sears Craftsman sockets that will last me for the rest of my life, and my son's life thereafter.  Indestructible.  Irwin tools are always fantastic -- their quick clams and hammers.  Owning a really large collection of clamps --- and good ones --- will save you hours and hours of frustration in the years to come.  Pros don't skimp on quality and neither should you.

3.  Displaying your tools is half the guilty pleasure.  I was able to grab 8 "dressers" from a college dorm that they were remodeling --- those built-in 4-drawer stacks.  They are big, solid wood drawers -- deep, heavy and build to stand up to the punishment students deliver.  I took 6 of them and lined them up side by side on the back wall of my garage.  That became the base for my workbench.  From that same dorm remodel, I grabbed a bunch of old solid core doors.  The things weighed a ton.  Those became the bench top -- you could park a truck on top of that workbench and it wouldn't move.  Then on the wall above/behind -- peg board. Acres of peg board.  It's a craftsman's dream -- all those deep drawers to hold power tools, all that pegboard to hold small tools.

What's better than walking out there and looking at a perfectly clean workbench with all those lovingly kept tools hanging from the peg board.  Tool porn.  

Now, if you don't mind, I'm off to Lowes to look at reciprocating saws.  Cordless.  And maybe a new manure fork.
 
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Pearl just reminded me of another guilty pleasure: garage sales/estate sales.

My mom was a garage sale professional.  I've inherited her passion, but not her exceptional eye.  But you can find great tools for sale if you keep an eye out.
 
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YouTube,  Permies and Audible. Oh my!
 
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You Tube has a hold on me....  I go there first when I want to learn something and funny enough, if you do a google search for almost anything, a youtube link pops up.
I am addicted to it!!  I have worked nights for many years and my "unwinding" when I get home in the morning is to watch a bit of youtube.
 
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Dennis Barrow wrote:You Tube has a hold on me....  I go there first when I want to learn something and funny enough, if you do a google search for almost anything, a youtube link pops up.
I am addicted to it!!  I have worked nights for many years and my "unwinding" when I get home in the morning is to watch a bit of youtube.




This is definitely true. Type in "Wipe your Butt" in a YouTube search and you get about 6 videos from people who feel compelled to tell you how to do it, although I have been successfully doing it since age 3. That just kind of shows, ANYTHING is on YouTube.
 
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Seeds and browsing seed catalogs. I'm guilty of planting '1 of everything' as opposed to a useful quantity of a useful plant, so got to collect all of those types of seeds.

Does collecting hobbies count? Lampwork glass, scuba diving, triathlon, gardening, beekeeping. I especially like hobbies that require a lot of kit- because then you get to collect it all!
 
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Civilization V and eBay.  I have been through all versions of Civilization, even have VI on my computer but it just didn't appeal to me like V.

Youtube isn't a "guilty" pleasure because I use it to learn useful things and listen to music that inspires me.  Now, to find some blue barrels to make a pontoon boat and a canoe.
 
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I read tooooo much if you ask my family.  I can spend hours on the internet, YouTube and other.  When I decided to do something I want all the information I can find.  Gardening!  Who cares if there's no clean dishes, I have weeds to pull.  I love all the garden centers, but Lowes is my favorite, I check out the 1$ rack a couple times a week.  When my son was a teenager one day I came home with a bunch of plants and he told me I needed an intervention.  I just laughed and told him it could be worse, I could be addicted to drugs or alcohol,or something.  He still thinks I'm a nut, but he bought me a hog panel to use as a trellis for my garden for my birthday, so I think he understands it's too late for an intervention.  It seems permies is my newest guilty pleasure. Well I'm not sure I'm guilty, but it is a pleasure.
 
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Oh, I must send Marco's tool post to my spouse - to quote him, "I don't smoke, I don't drink, I just buy tools". The only good thing about that is that I go and use them (and unfortunately, occasionally abuse them either due to lack of strength or lack of knowledge.) He refers to the local Princess Auto flyer as "tool porn". I do agree that for most situations, buying quality (including good used) is way better than cheap and breakable.

I'll add that quality vice grips are a woman's best friend - especially this particular somewhat wimpy woman with small hands. When I need my husband or son to help with something, I say, "I need a BSB - big strong boy," but often it is simply that my hand is physically too small to do what needs doing.

As to my own guilty pleasure, it's on-line Sudoku puzzles. I can do a hard one normally in 10 to 15 min, so it gives me a break, I usually drink water while playing which is something I *have* to do in larger volumes than most people, so I justify it as far better than things that might suck me in for a much longer period. My favorite site is - http://dkmgames.com/sudoku/ - because their old version is easy on my dyslexia.
 
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