!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cleaning our Rivers and Oceans Kickstarter

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I am writing a new article about how when you have a new homestead you are building on raw land, the first thing you need to do is poop management.

More reasons to support the kickstarter, even if you're not keen on willow feeders:

- You get the green kickstarter K by your name. I've supported every kickstarter I've been on permies for (still bummed I was too late for the permaculture cards kickstarter!). I am rather proud of having one of the highest numbered Ks, and I like to keep it that way!

- It supports permies. Kickstarters like this are a big income stream to keep permies running. I love the easy-to-find, perennial threads here on permies. There's so much good, authentic knowledge here! If I'm trying to find one of my old pictures, I can usually find it quicker on permies than I can on my computer. I have a lot of my research, knowledge, experiments, and pictures here on permies--I don't want them to disappear!

       $12,015!

Nicole Alderman wrote:More reasons to support the kickstarter, even if you're not keen on willow feeders:

- You get the green kickstarter K by your name. I've supported every kickstarter I've been on permies for (still bummed I was too late for the permaculture cards kickstarter!). I am rather proud of having one of the highest numbered Ks, and I like to keep it that way!

- It supports permies. Kickstarters like this are a big income stream to keep permies running. I love the easy-to-find, perennial threads here on permies. There's so much good, authentic knowledge here! If I'm trying to find one of my old pictures, I can usually find it quicker on permies than I can on my computer. I have a lot of my research, knowledge, experiments, and pictures here on permies--I don't want them to disappear!

Exactly. For anyone that is not sure whether to back this Kickstarter because you can’t build a willow feeder where you are now, consider it to be a bit of a fundraiser for all the stuff we get for free from Permies. This Kickstarter is not just about funding the willow feeder movie and book, it also helps Paul, Permies, and Wheaton Labs to continue to innovate and make the world a better place.

Kate Downham wrote:For anyone that is not sure whether to back this Kickstarter because you can’t build a willow feeder where you are now, consider it to be a bit of a fundraiser for all the stuff we get for free from Permies. This Kickstarter is not just about funding the willow feeder movie and book, it also helps Paul, Permies, and Wheaton Labs to continue to innovate and make the world a better place.

Hello Kate!
Thank you for this!  
I support these kickstarters because I want to support Paul and his work.  I think this project is one of the most important ones.  

Everyone knows that our standard, modern ways of processing poop create waste and pollution.  
Even people who don't want to build a willow feeder can see how creating this movie will support these ideas moving forward.  
 

i sent this out on the dailyish yesterday

solving global problems instead of being angry at bad guys

The solutions are embarassingly simple.  Just a bit of information. Knowledge.  Maybe a tiny bit of thinking about it. Considering the issue and the solutions.

Some people are worried about climate change. There is a giant list of simple things they can do, but instead, the most popular action is to say "they should fix that."  Or the one that really frustrates me "Can't even one person come up with one thing to solve this?"

Air pollution: same.

Cancer: same.



And for the people that don't care about others, or global problems:

Acquiring land for homesteading:  I came up with five easy solutions, including SKIP.

Saving money: heat; an hour of gardening turns into thousands of dollars in food; laundry; pooless; commute; building a home; lawn care

best of all is the cure for politics:  a humble home and a giant garden makes all the sleaze and lies seem tiny and far away.



The average food delivery tip is $4.  


Water pollution is intense and getting worse. A huge portion of it is what you put down your drain. Please consider the issue and these solutions - I think we do an excellent job of packing a lot of information into a three minute video.  And there is a 100 page ebook for a dollar.

This is about solving global problems by learning good things instead of being angry at bad guys.

And, yes, I have a lot more I am working on and need the money to move everything forward.  A little help please?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/willow-feeders?ref=b8kqml

I think that this is a huge core of all this.  It takes years to get to the willow feeder.  But there is sooooo much to talk about involving our own contributions to water pollution

15 years ago I made the wheaton eco scale. It starts with

level 0: about 6 billion people (about 70% of the population)
level 1: about a billion people (about 15% of the population)
level 2: about 100 million people (about 1.5% of the population)
level 3: about 10 million people (about 0.15% of the population)
level 4: about a million people

... you get the idea

One of my favorite parts about the scale, is where I talk about dandelions.

level 0: spray dandelions
level 2: pluck dandelions
level 4: eat dandelions; blow on dandelion seed heads to make more
level 6: seeking tastier dandelions


And now that we are contemplating water quality (drinking water from homestead wells, and the water quality downstream of sewage treatment plants) I think we can add to the scale.

level 0: clean the paintbrush with turpentine in the sink; harsh cleaners, soaps, bleach, etc.

level 1: buy some "eco" substitutes; try to use less turpentine and utter the phrase "I wish there was a better way."

level 2: no more turpentine (because there are many better ways);

level 3: poo-less-ish; no more harsh cleaners/soaps in the house; exploring using the eco cleaners less - typically doing a first pass at cleaning with just warm water.

level 4: true poo-less (pure water); seeking cleaners/soaps that are better than the "eco" brands. Stock up on edible cleaners. 95% of cleaning is now with warm water

level 5: everything that goes down the drain could be re-routed to a greywater system; contemplating willow feeders and mulch pits

level 6: experimenting with a small mulch pit and a small willow feeder system

level 7: 100% mulch pits and willow feeders; nothing goes to septic tanks or sewage treatment plants


Visit with me about this here

https://permies.com/p/3103694

FYI  ...  a willow feeder is NOT a composting toilet.  

Further, we are calling this project "Cleaning our Rivers and Oceans" because it is more about what we put down our drains.  

level 0: clean the paintbrush with turpentine in the sink; harsh cleaners, soaps, bleach, etc.

level 1: buy some "eco" substitutes; try to use less turpentine and utter the phrase "I wish there was a better way."

level 2: no more turpentine (because there are many better ways);

level 3: poo-less-ish; no more harsh cleaners/soaps in the house; exploring using the eco cleaners less - typically doing a first pass at cleaning with just warm water.

level 4: true poo-less (pure water); seeking cleaners/soaps that are better than the "eco" brands. Stock up on edible cleaners. 95% of cleaning is now with warm water

level 5: everything that goes down the drain could be re-routed to a greywater system; contemplating willow feeders and mulch pits

level 6: experimenting with a small mulch pit and a small willow feeder system

I think we will affect the most change with level 3 stuff.  But, of course, we take this path to the logical conclusion of willow feeders.

I kinda think that if R. Ranson's book 'Clean with Cleaners You Can Eat' got some more mental real estate from the general public, the willow feeder would start making a lot more sense to a lot more people.  

Awe, thanks beau

       $13,009!

paul wheaton wrote:


       $13,009!

Noice!

crazylifeshit solved and pledge made.

I'm disappointed as I normally make it in the first 10.  For some reason, I seem to remember being backer number 6 fairly often.  



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r ranson wrote:crazylifeshit solved and pledge made.

I'm disappointed as I normally make it in the first 10.  For some reason, I seem to remember being backer number 6 fairly often.  



(anyone recognize this?)

The Prisoner! Excellent show.

We currently have 399 backers! I wonder who will be backer #400?

Looks like some progress overnight.

I just managed my pledge to add $35 more to the kitty. You're currently at $13,281. I so hope this flies!

Beau M. Davidson wrote:I kinda think that if R. Ranson's book 'Clean with Cleaners You Can Eat' got some more mental real estate from the general public, the willow feeder would start making a lot more sense to a lot more people.  

Totally agree with you Beau!
Between a greywater system, a willow feeder and edible cleaners we can take care of almost all our water on our own property without poisoning ourselves or anyone else.
I just always try to remember that the “away” in throwing something away just doesn’t exist. So I have to take care of it myself as best as I can.
And a dry toilet system is a huge step in that.

I just posted that a willow feeder is NOT a composting toilet  https://permies.com/t/284449/willow-feeder-composting-toilet

Composting toilets are illegal in many counties and states.  For good reason.

The designs are solid.  It is a few sloppy implementations that are the problem.  

To solve problems we need a stronger solution.  A much stronger solution.  Something so good that it is better than any other other solutions.  Clearly better and difficult to botch.  

There is a lot of room for optimization BUT, as is, it is better than anything else.


Credit where credit is due:  A composting toilet (whether using bacteria, fungus, worms or black soldier fly larvae) has a fascinating advantage.  With a big enough container and proper care, the container will never need to be emptied.  All of the oranic matter will, in time, decompose and go into the atmosphere.  The only remains are the minerals that cannot decompose into atmospheric gasses. I like the idea of designing something down this road for certain non-gardener solutions.  At the same time, it would be brutally difficult to get it approved because so many lawmakers have already made a stand against all composting toilets.

The willow feeder works hard to NOT compost.  We want to keep that organic matter.  Once the pathogens are gone, we want that material to build massive ornamental gardens - starting with the amazingly useful willow tree.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/willow-feeders?ref=4sgel6

We're at $14,000!!!

We added a goofballs reward.  Can you see it?

Yes!

$14,746!!!


and

441 backers!!

So awesome!   Thank you everyone!

We now have one person signed up for the goofballs level!

paul wheaton wrote:We now have one person signed up for the goofballs level!

Still 11 more goofballs slots left.  This is a great way to support this site that supports all of us goofballs!  Thank you so much for all your wonderful work Paul.

Getting closer

2 goofballs!  (10 slots left)

444 backers!

Thanks for adding the new goofballs backer level!  I love the goofballs !

I like the graphic. It looks great!
I don’t see the goofballs level as an option on the mobile app for kickstarter though.

Oooooh, were at

444 backers!

And, we're so close to 15,000!

Some great content about some needed solutions!

Only $8 shy of $15,000.

       $15,042!

It's always exciting to wake up and see that we've hit another benchmark. We're 3/4 of the way there!

Nicole Alderman wrote:It's always exciting to wake up and see that we've hit another benchmark.

that is nice to see

$15,710

We are getting closer!

We're now at $15,829. I wonder if we'll make it to $16,000 before I go to bed?