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Plumbing Badge Oddball thread

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Some PEP badges allow for oddball points.  This was introduced in this thread.

When submitting something in the official Oddball badge, you get points based on the time it would take a professional to do the same task if they have a bit of luck.

When submitting something within a badge that allows oddball points (Homesteading, Metalworking, etc), they are based on the time it would take a talented newbie to do the same task.

When you did something that should be in a badge but there isn't a BB for it, post about it in that badge and maybe it will become a BB.  If that badge allows oddball points, you can submit it there, otherwise it has to go into Oddball badge.

Some examples:
You welded up a 20 foot unicorn - put it into the Metalworking Oddball thread
You made a candle - put it in the regular Oddball thread since it isn't a clear fit for an existing badge
You build a pump house - post it in Homesteading since it should be a BB there and/or put it in Homesteading Oddball
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I had to do routine service on a well water filtration system.  I didn't see a badge for it but figured it might be worth some oddball points.

I had to secure the water intake, change out the filter and clean out the housing, and restock the brine tank.

All told it probably took 20-30 minutes.
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Securing the water filter intake and outflow (bypass left secured as well)
Securing the water filter intake and outflow (bypass left secured as well)
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Wrenching the filter housing open
Wrenching the filter housing open
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Old filter (lots of iron in the water here!)
Old filter (lots of iron in the water here!)
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Filter intake and outflow reopened
Filter intake and outflow reopened
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Bine tank stocked with anti iron pellets
Bine tank stocked with anti iron pellets
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I feel the journey to my next Oddball Milestone will be long. So here’s the next tiny step.

Fix slow draining kitchen sink and stop weird glugging noise

The kitchen sink wasn’t draining as well as it should and every now and then there would be some strangle gurgling and glugging noise, which irritated my slightly OCD wife! Do we call the landlord? Do we call a plumber? In the words of Bob the Builder Can we fix it? Yes, we can!

I cleared everything out from under the sink. Then I notified every one what I was up to, taped the tap shut and put a large mixing bowl under the u-bend before removing all the gubbins.





A large slimy lump of black gunk plopped out.



The pipes were coated with a thick layer of black slime. The vent unit was totally clogged.





I took everything to the basement sink and cleaned the tubes with an old flannel.



I now had a whole family of slime things.



And clean pipes.





I reinstalled all the parts.



Sink draining properly and no strange noises. Happy wife . . . Job done.
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I installed a back up water pump in my plumbing system.  That way we'll be able to get potable water even if the power is out.  I bought an Oasis hand pump.  If you get one, buy it directly from Tim at Oasis pumps for a much better price than through the distributors.

I had to tee into my plumbing before and after my shallow jet pump to create the manual pump bypass.  I messed up the first go around because I wanted a system that would work without turning valves on and off.  So I put a check valve between the electric pump and the pressure tank to keep the hand pump from pumping in a circle.  Unfortunately that messed with the electric pump and it needed to be removed.  

So I partially disassembled it and replaced that with a valve and added a valve at the outlet of the hand pump.  Now I can just turn some valves and manually pump water into my pressure tank and around the house.

I found that I can develop about 24psi of pressure with the pump.  If I wanted to let some air out of the pressure tank balloon, I could pump several gallons into the tank and I could use faucets around the house.  They'd be a bit slower than normal but it's better than hauling water from the lake and filtering it.  As is I could pump about 3 quarts of water into the pressure tank.  When pumping right out of the spigot by the pump, I could generate a quart of water in 6 pumps.

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Starting position
Starting position
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Tearing things apart, pump mounted
Tearing things apart, pump mounted
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Done! Oh crap, the electric pump doesn't work... Oh, it's that new check valve to the right of the gauge. Damn..
Done! Oh crap, the electric pump doesn't work... Oh, it's that new check valve to the right of the gauge. Damn..
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Take it apart again
Take it apart again
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New valve here
New valve here
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New valves on either side of the hand pump, plus another union to make removal easier. All done!
New valves on either side of the hand pump, plus another union to make removal easier. All done!
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With 40 acres as a private venue campground, there is often maintenance and upgrades.  We have six four-stall permanent outhouses and one (two-stall) willow feeder for use by campers. This spring, while preparing (cleaning, stocking, etc.) the campground for our spring event and summer rentals, I replaced three toilet seats.   Since there is no replace a toilet seat BB, I'm hoping this is worth some points here.
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Our 4-Stall Permanent "Honey Bucket" Style Outhouses
Our 4-Stall Permanent "Honey Bucket" Style Outhouses
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Typical Stall - before
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Stall 1 - during (white seat removed)
Stall 1 - during (white seat removed)
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Stall 1 - After - new wood seat installed
Stall 1 - After - new wood seat installed
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Stall 3 - After
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Three old white seats on the way to the landfill
Three old white seats on the way to the landfill
 
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Basement Waste Water repair

There’s a 4 inch cast iron waste pipe in my basement. It used to be connected to a bathroom that no longer exists. It is still used by the kitchen sink and washing machine. The pipe runs the full length of the basement, it is badly installed running through door frames, tied up with random bits of wire. It is also heavily corroded, drips in a couple of places and was on my long list of tasks to be done. On Thursday it jumped to the top of the list after a large crack appeared and kitchen sink water was flowing out at an unacceptable rate.


The problem pipe - picture taken when we first moved in


Pipe runs through a door frame and at head height across backdoor - yes, I have banged my head on it more than once


Leaking and corroded section

I will rip out the entire kitchen and install a new kitchen when time and money allow. The room under the kitchen is currently a store room that also needs a lot of work including removing / rerouting / replacing all pipes and wires that crisscross the ceiling. The ceiling itself is a disaster - layers and layers of bodges. All this will be done, but not today. Today I need a rapid solution, but I was going to do things properly, code compliant and within the constraints of existing services. This isn’t a final solution, pipes will be rerouted into the ceiling space when i renovate the two rooms.

I started by removing the section of pipe that was leaking, working from the section that comes down from the old bathroom towards the sink T section. I used a demolition chisel and hammer to crack the cast iron in a controlled fashion.


The inside of the pipe was a semisolid mass of waste and a fine gravel which I assume is cat litter as the previous owner had 18 cats . . .

Once I removed the pipe as far as the kitchen T section, I started working on removing the kitchen sink waste water pipe.


The pipe had a total of seven elbows threaded through existing services. Every joint was correded and set solid.


Section in the under-sink cupboard


After removing two layers of plywood, old kitchen tiles and two layers of floorboards, I could remove the old waste pipe

The waste pipe from the washing machine needed repalcing because it isn’t code compliant - less than two inches in diameter and no slope.


Behind the washing machine


Basement section which is flat horizontal


Connection with cast iron pipe which occasionally drips


For now I’m using the existing 4 inch PVC pipe, I just needed to remove the cast iron section.

Now I could start measuring and cutting pipe. I did an entire dry fit before glueing up.


Cutting pipe


Dry fitting


Dry fitting


Glue up


Checking pipe slope for code compliance


2 inch to 4 inch joint


Washing machine section completed


New section next to old - increase of five inches head clearance


Old section going through door frame next to new section


Washing machine connected and working as planned


Kitchen sink connected and working

It took me and my son all day to do this work. I’ve done some basic plumbing before but only with sections that screw together, the plumbing you can see under the sink that was a previous plumbing odd ball. We needed to do a fair ammount of research making sure it was done properly and to code. Since moving in the room under the kitchen has been used as a store room mostly for gardening stuff. It all needed boxing and moving out before we could get started. The existing pipe required full PPE - not plesant in the current heatwave! The primer and cement were also pretty unpleasant and my son was rightly worryed about the toxicity.

We both learnt a lot and happy with the result. I look forward to renovating the kitchen and moving the plumbing into the ceiling / floor space.
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I set up a water pump and pressure tank for rainwater in my greenhouse!  There is a BB for setting up a potable pump but this water isn't potable so I'm just putting the whole system here in oddball.

First, the water is mostly filtered before it gets to the greenhouse but I heard that household pumps can't handle any debris on their pumpy parts so I started with a whole house filter.  Then I mated a pump from the Habitat Restore to a new pressure tank with a hunk of wood.  Then a bunch of plumbing ensued to connect it all up, keep it as compact as possible and allow for various unknown future uses.  

My main intent is to be able to water without turning on a sprinkler pump all the time.

After getting it all together I realized I needed a check valve before the pump or the pressure tank would just relieve itself back through the pump to the rain barrels.  So I had to redo all the plumbing between the filter and the pump today.

My normal plumbing projects require an average of 4 trips to Menards and have 1 leak.  This one took 6 trips and had zero leaks :)

Photo notes:
1. Original water entry before I did anything with pumps
2. Sorting out filter plumbing bits
3. Filter installed for a sprinkler pump.  Worked great till the sprinkler pump died.....
4. Layout as of a week ago as phase 2 began
5. Mating pump and tank with bolts in the way using a block of wood with relief holes cut in it
6. Pump and tank together, added feet so it wouldn't sink into the ground over time.  Untreated wood so hopefully it stays dry and lasts a decent while...
7. Pump in position
8. Laying out the plumbing
9. First run is done.  Turns out I had to redo it this morning cuz of the need for a check valve...
10. All together and spraying water!!!
11. Piping all together, pressure gauge, unions and all the works
12. Alternate view.  2' stub to the left for potential connection to a line that goes over to the garden in the future
13. End of the run at the other side of the greenhouse.  This system has two spigots and two spots with threaded plugs for potentially adding more spigots or connections in the future.
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Not looking good. I think this might be the end. Wait! Is that a tiny ad?
Harvesting Rainwater for your Homestead in 9 Days or Less by Renee Dang
https://permies.com/wiki/206770/Harvesting-Rainwater-Homestead-Days-Renee
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