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thomas rubino wrote:I completely agree Elle;
Piggy are wonderful addition to a rural home!
The county road splits my property. The pig paddocks are right next to the road.
It is a popular drive for the locals to bring young ones by just to see the piggys!
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elle sagenev wrote:Oh I also find them funny and fun and just love having them wandering around in general. I can vouch for the fact that the neighbors are fascinated by them too.
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thomas rubino wrote:I completely agree Elle;
Piggy are wonderful addition to a rural home!
The county road splits my property. The pig paddocks are right next to the road.
It is a popular drive for the locals to bring young ones by just to see the piggys!
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elle sagenev wrote:Next pig benefit is the way they roam the property digging randomly. Our property needs some disruption. It also unearths things for the poultry to eat. They love to follow them around picking up things they’ve dug up for them.
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Carla Burke wrote:Elle, we've been keeping the thought in the backs of our minds, about getting a pig or two. We've already got a couple issues we need to resolve with the goats, and I've been reluctant to get pigs, at all. But, we do love our bacon and other porcine products, so they have been teasing our thoughts, and we had planned to revisit the idea, in a year or 3. But... between all that's going on, in the world, our knowledge of just how much less dependent we'd be on commercial pork, and the things you've written - including this thread - maybe a couple roosters and some self replicating meat birds won't be all we add, next spring...
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elle sagenev wrote:So I have a pretty idyllic pig experience to be honest. They don't wander anywhere when I free range them and they don't harm or kill any of the other animals. They also like my kids. It might be the breed. It might be how we raise them. Not sure. Just keep in mind that pigs can absolutely tear through fences and kill things.
Also keep in mind that i did actually intend to kill the two boars we have right now. I didn't see a point in keeping them around. I couldn't find a butcher though. They're either closed due to covid or swamped. Since I happen to be very fond of these two I can't see killing them myself. So, guess they'll earn their keep being stewards of the land and animals this winter. Just be prepared that if this is still going on you may be killing your own pigs. I've done it several times and it's a lot of work.
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This is an emotional issue as well as a work issue. Pigs, much more so than meat chickens for example, have personality and brains - this makes it much harder for some of us to emotionally deal with the responsibility of end of life. I can remember reading a book about a farming community where it was normal for every family to have its "farm pig cleaner-upper". In the fall, they would kill and process a neighbor's pig, and the neighbor would kill and process theirs. In comparison, I'm quite ready to stick Hubby's meat chickens in the freezer by the time they're 8 weeks old - dumb as bricks and a pain to deal with by then.Just be prepared that if this is still going on you may be killing your own pigs. I've done it several times and it's a lot of work.
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Jay Angler wrote:This is an emotional issue as well as a work issue. Pigs, much more so than meat chickens for example, have personality and brains - this makes it much harder for some of us to emotionally deal with the responsibility of end of life.
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Trace, I really respect that you are honest with yourself about this topic. I know people who feel as you do and the world needs all kinds of people for balance. There have been situations on my farm when I've been expected to put a "friend" out of her misery and I did not like it one little bit.Trace Oswald wrote:All of you that can kill and butcher animals that you have raised are stronger than I am. Animals become friends to me, so any that I own live out their days with me. I just can't kill them unless they are suffering in some way. And as Jay said, the smarter the animal and the more personality, the harder it is. I have had to kill chickens that were injured or sick, and I really struggle, but it would be far harder to kill an animal like a pig or a dog. I've had to have dogs put to sleep and it's terrible. I can't imagine killing one myself unless it were horribly injured and I knew it wouldn't survive a car trip to the vet without extra stress and pain. Even then, I would struggle with the fact that I had to do it for years, maybe forever.
I think I'm destined to buy from local people that raise their animals well, but are strong enough to butcher them when it's time.
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Trace Oswald wrote:All of you that can kill and butcher animals that you have raised are stronger than I am. Animals become friends to me, so any that I own live out their days with me. I just can't kill them unless they are suffering in some way. And as Jay said, the smarter the animal and the more personality, the harder it is. I have had to kill chickens that were injured or sick, and I really struggle, but it would be far harder to kill an animal like a pig or a dog. I've had to have dogs put to sleep and it's terrible. I can't imagine killing one myself unless it were horribly injured and I knew it wouldn't survive a car trip to the vet without extra stress and pain. Even then, I would struggle with the fact that I had to do it for years, maybe forever.
I think I'm destined to buy from local people that raise their animals well, but are strong enough to butcher them when it's time.
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Carla Burke wrote:
Trace Oswald wrote:All of you that can kill and butcher animals that you have raised are stronger than I am. Animals become friends to me, so any that I own live out their days with me. I just can't kill them unless they are suffering in some way. And as Jay said, the smarter the animal and the more personality, the harder it is. I have had to kill chickens that were injured or sick, and I really struggle, but it would be far harder to kill an animal like a pig or a dog. ...
I love all animals, especially right next to the mash potatoes. I have cats, have had dogs, quail, rabbits, ducks, horses, even snakes at one point. Love'm all. But one has to make the distinction between 'pets' and 'dinner'. I have killed dogs that were killing my stock. If I had to say which breed would be hardest to put down, its goats. Neighbor has them and they follow him and his wife like puppies.
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elle sagenev wrote: Have ya'll found your pigs surprisingly useful in any way?
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