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are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)  RSS feed

 
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I have thought and thought on Gert. I have a detailed plan on becoming like Gert.

Sugar - maple trees tapped for sugar in spring and fall

Tea - grown in shady terraces and processed methodically

Grain - corn and buckwheat grown in garden*

Vegetables - 70+ varieties grown in garden*

Fruit - apples, plums, cherries, peaches, and pears grown in forest clearing. Berries grown in fruit tree shadows. Grapes grow on arbor in the summer kitchen complex. Annual fruits grown in garden. Pulp left over from cider and wine pressing is used to finish pigs.

Tobacco - turkish and landrace varieties grown together in garden and freely allowed to pollinate. Processed in summer kitchen complex.

Meat** - fish from nearby river, deer and turkey from the forest, pigs and chickens raised for meat on the farm. Preserved largely by smoking, canning, and freezing.

Eggs - chickens

Dairy -from two nubian goats, excess made into queso fresco and queso aƱejo, yogurt, and butter. Whey used to soak grain for fattening pigs.

Herbs - from herb garden surrounding house

We have equipment for making textiles, sewing, blacksmithing, carpentry, and ceramics.




* garden is about one acre.

** I am no longer vegan.

 
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Mick Fisch wrote:

My wife had a 'wake up' moment a while back.  We had been going to a self sufficiency class in our church.  This class was focused on finances (there are other classes with other focuses).  My wife realized that she had been worrying about the money to buy things we needed.  She suddenly realized she didn't need the money, she needed the stuff.  So she started to focus and pray on how to get the things we needed.  She quickly and consistently found the stuff either free or very cheap from a variety of sources.  My wife told my daughter who is homesteading in Alaska about this.  My daughter did the same thing.  She needed a bookcase, a printer and something else (I forget what it was).  She felt like she should check the dump.  (they have an area where people can leave stuff others might want).  She found everything but the printer there, exactly what she needed.  While she was loading it, a guy drove up to drop off a printer.  He had bought a new one but the old one worked perfectly.  This attitude of repurposing and scrounging is part of the permies mindset.  The reason I tell the story is to point out that needs were met without spending money.  What we need is our needs met, not the money to pay to get our needs met.



yep, this ^^^

dumpster thriving, needing things and not necessarily money, i had the same revelation, and it changed my life.
it gave me the courage to jump into my passions and art, to basically give up wage slavery and decide all i HAD TO DO, was make art, grow food, and build things/find shelter.
so this is what i do to the best of my ability, and freedom from wage slavery is worth at least a million bucks.
directly providing, shamelessly scrounging, growing, building those things instead of buying it all, is not only economical, but empowering.

manifesting is always fun too =) just to have faith in the abundance of the universe, amidst the illusion of scarcity and desperation, to just MANIFEST things...simple magic. =)

well fortune favors the bold, and you have to put it out there, but i have definite used the fates help somehow just simply manifesting the THINGS needed, in fact i have knack for it. anything i need, truly need, i can usually manifest fairly easily, by forming the full image of it in my mind, fleshing it out a bit, and just asking the universe to provide. then i find it randomly, someone offers, craigslist post, etc etc =)
 
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I think the premise that Gert works 48 weeks 10 to 20 hours/week and 4 weeks 50 hours/week is unlikely.  When you look at people living alternative lifestyles, you have to look at energy systems.  Rivers have eddies, and as every Kayaker knows, those eddies are the easy way to move up stream.  Many people in the alternative world use 'energy eddies' to move forward.  Pockets of 'waste' with nutritional value are collected and utilized.  I think these people add value to society, but they must be willing to move to a new eddy if the one they are using dries up.  I don't see their lifestyle as feasible for all.  Their lifestyle is in part made possible by the mass over consumption around them.  I have lived in intentional communities for 40 years.  That can be an interesting game; my advice is to read Animal Farm, because the pigs always move in when things become successful and the Boxer's usually are sold for glue.  The ideal is that you watch everyone else's back and everyone else watches yours.  I have plenty had plenty of disappointment in that arena.  Being of a capable nature, I have never really minded when people draft off me.  Unfortunately, I have had some drafters become opportunists when I am played out.  You can't count on people to always act right.  Much as I would like the world to be different, I walk softly, but I make sure I carry a nice stick.

I don't measure my millionaire status by how much or how hard I work.  I am successful when I am happy and in harmony with my goals.  I think the Gert premise as given here, is like taking herbal capsules instead of pills.  It is the pill mentality that is wrong, not what is in the pills.  Herbs can be utilized like pills, but the point is to use herbs in your cooking, in your diet, so you don't have to 'take pills'.  In the same way there needs to be a shift from doing things you don't like for money, to doing what you enjoy, for life.  Many people will not want to farm or do permaculture stuff (most of my friends), but they are very positive contributors to the wheel (of life).  My legacy's will be soils I have improved, trees I have planted, kind deeds I have done and hopefully some knowledge that I have fleshed out and shared.  The concept that some people are important and others are not is as antiquated as monarchs, and in my mind, comes from thousands of years of monarch rule.  As a physician, I have yet to meet a human that did not find their own self to have value and did not want to be treated with fairness and kindness.  The Koans I gave myself when I was a young man where as follows:  1.  What if no one has ever been like you?  Looking for other people of like mind could become a lifelong endeavor and you would never have time to accomplish your dreams.  So just be you and get on with it.  The one thing you will always be better at than anyone else is being authentically you.  2.  You are on your death bed and your great grandchildren ask you for knowledge.  What are the timeless truths in life?  Truths that will never die?  Spend part of your life acquiring these.  The only thing I really learned following this path is that the only thing of real value you earn in life is the memory people have of you.  That is my 'millionaire Gert'.  :)
 
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Tyler Ludens wrote:I've never been bored in my life.

Maybe that's not strictly accurate.  I have too many interests to be bored.  

I envy people who can work hard.




I am the same way, but unfortunately I have lost my health.

Currently I am in a big holding pattern because I just do not have any stamina. The Doctors in Maine have said there is nothing they can do for me, so if they are right, then I have to figure out what I can do. If the new Doctors I am going to see can do something to at least mitigate my health issue, then I can move forward with our farm plans.
 
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siri atma khalsa wrote:I think the premise that Gert works 48 weeks 10 to 20 hours/week and 4 weeks 50 hours/week is unlikely.



Can you explain more why you think it is unlikely?  Do you think the Gerts have to work more hours than that?  Or less?

 
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siri atma khalsa wrote:I think the premise that Gert works 48 weeks 10 to 20 hours/week and 4 weeks 50 hours/week is unlikely.



I can assert that Gert working 48 weeks at 20 hours per week is true!

I kept careful track on my labor hours over the last 11 years, and averaged together, it came to 1100 hours per year. I also was able to take my farm from 3.5 acres with 4 sheep in 2008, to hundreds of acres and multiple homes in 2019, with a gross value of $2,079,186.00 as of today. After 8 years I was able to take my farm from Beginning/Hobby farm Status, to Full-Time Status.

Just this fall I took an old house we had that was sitting vacant, invested $1800 into it, and moved in. That house valued at $40,000, but 5 weeks later, I doubled its value by putting in electricty, sheathing,, framing, siding and drywall; all in 5 weeks. I was putting in about 6 hours a day because I have cancer have absolutely no stamina, having to stop at noon for a nap I was so tired. But to increase a persons gross farm value by $38,200 in 5 weeks time is possible, because of sweat equity. In my case I used my time, and my sawmill, and my own logs from the forest to accomplish a lot. If I was working a real job, and just had weekends, vacation, and holidays I could not do that. I still could transform an old house into something useable, just stretched out due to working on the weekends.

This is the point: PEOPLE CAN DO THIS! In fact it really angers people when they say people can't. Have they tried?

Because I kept careful records, I can back up what I say.
 
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I believe that permaculture will soon become very acceptable in the next decade, between the popularity of the survivalist preppers out there and people like myself 30 to 40 year olds who are quite disillusioned with work culture/jobs availablity/low wage standards will be turning other methods more and more just to make ends meet.

Many of the cooks that work with my man do the best they can with their back yards. One lives in a trailer but has a raised beds squished into his insanely tiny plot. The head chief has made his bark yard into a garden and uses the restaurants rooftop for a herb garden. One of the dishwashers keeps pestering my man for some of my little Rhode Island Reds' eggs and would like to be gifted a chicken for his own fresh eggs.

For our own adventures, we put a down payment on  a more then reasonably priced house with 15 acres that was once used for growing hay on family owned cattle farm. There is no infrastructure for animals but I am happy with just chickens should we not be able to afford to build for more livestock other then perhaps keeping pigs over the summer to be butchered at the end of fall.

This going to be our third year here, my man used to be annoyed on my harping on about having land to farm and obsessing over how many acres came with the property while we were looking threw the real estate ads. I started the garden with a shovel and bucket to clear out the top of the field. Second year we an old tiller bought and all the basic gardening tools. This year my man will be taking a vacation to help clear out more space for the garden and have it filled as soon as possible, the best part, he was the one that suggested the working staycation.
 
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Christine Le page wrote:I believe that permaculture will soon become very acceptable in the next decade, between the popularity of the survivalist preppers out there and people like myself 30 to 40 year olds who are quite disillusioned with work culture/jobs availablity/low wage standards will be turning other methods more and more just to make ends meet.

Many of the cooks that work with my man do the best they can with their back yards. One lives in a trailer but has a raised beds squished into his insanely tiny plot. The head chief has made his bark yard into a garden and uses the restaurants rooftop for a herb garden. One of the dishwashers keeps pestering my man for some of my little Rhode Island Reds' eggs and would like to be gifted a chicken for his own fresh eggs.



agree ^^^ this is THE WAY of the future. whether we call it permaculture, or holistic systems thinking, or EVOLVE OR DIE.

also agree do what you can with what you have. we all bring a little to the table but together we have a lot. Stone Soup is also the way of the future.
 
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