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How you hang toilet paper shows your personality type!

 
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- There are two types of people in the world: normal people who hang toilet paper in the “over” position, and sadists who hang it in the “under” position to make life miserable for themselves and whoever else uses their crapper. Just kidding. (No but really.)
- First of all, you should know that there’s a documented correct way to place toilet paper onto the holder — which is in the “over” position. Seriously — the 1891 patent for the toilet paper roll literally states that the end of the roll should be hanging off the exterior, so there’s that.
 
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John C Daley wrote:what-the-way-you-hang-your-toilet-paper-says-about-you
- There are two types of people in the world: normal people who hang toilet paper in the “over” position, and sadists who hang it in the “under” position to make life miserable for themselves and whoever else uses their crapper. Just kidding. (No but really.)
- First of all, you should know that there’s a documented correct way to place toilet paper onto the holder — which is in the “over” position. Seriously — the 1891 patent for the toilet paper roll literally states that the end of the roll should be hanging off the exterior, so there’s that.



There were a lot of things we didn't know in 1891. Clearly, the proper way to put the toilet paper on was one of them.
 
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And those of us who used to own a commercial janitorial service who hang it over the roll, because if it's under, you have to wash the wall behind it way too often.  Reaching for it in the under position bumps knuckles on the wall.  
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If you have a cat though, hanging under can prevent some annoying unfurlings.
 
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Mike, reason # 126 for not having a cat!
 
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What is it about toilet paper, puppies and cats?

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Cats and kids... my gods. I have never seen so much wasted toilet paper.

The 2 year old locks the toilet. You knock. They say "no!" repeat a few times. "What are you doing in there?!" When the door opens, you see twenty feet of toilet paper unrolled on the floor.

I re-rolled it.
 
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Reason #126 to not have a kid ;)
 
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John Said, " First of all, you should know that there’s a documented correct way to place toilet paper onto the holder — which is in the “over” position.



I have always used the "over" position.

My reasoning was that the toilet paper would get dirty from dust, etc. off the wall in the "under" position.  Seems like Pearl noticed what I thought.

I once quit a job because my boss said I put the toilet paper on wrong, meaning the paper wasn't in the "under" position.  I went to lunch and then just went home.  There were a lot of other reasons though that was the straw that did it on that day. The boss's wife called me to ask why I quit and I just said: "that it was not ever going to work out".

I love Megan's picture as that has happened to me too!
 
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There are two main ways cats remove toilet paper from the roll, grab and run, or paw it down. Grab and run works best if the paper hangs over, but paw it down works best if it hangs under, then it's the same movement as sharpening their claws and the support of the wall makes it so they can do it for quite a while.

And what's with small animals liking to shred toilet paper? It shreds easy, and is available. Anything that is available and they can tell they have killed it is exciting.

I keep cats, have studied this a lot  :D

My solution if I have rowdy kittens is to put the toilet paper out of their reach until they outgrow that stage.
 
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One has to wonder if the ancient romans ever sat around arguing over the proper way to position their sponge-on-a-stick at the toilet.
 
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Jordan Holland wrote:One has to wonder if the ancient romans ever sat around arguing over the proper way to position their sponge-on-a-stick at the toilet.



I hate to meet the guy arguing for sponge-up.
 
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what does it say about you if you don’t care at all and will replace the roll in whatever orientation it ends up in?

i will say though, our dispenser at home is free standing and isn’t against a wall. when it’s ‘under’, you can easily hold the roll still with the edge of your hand while tearing off sheets with fingers of the same hand. that isn’t possible when ‘over’. you have to use two hands, or else do a sideways-tear maneuver that is equally likely to unroll the roll as tear some sheets off. since the dispenser is way over on one side, i lean slightly towards the ‘under’ camp. but if it’s over, i’ll deal with it. it’s toilet paper. there’s actual important things to worry about in the world.
 
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greg mosser wrote:what does it say about you if you don’t care at all and will replace the roll in whatever orientation it ends up in?



ANARCHYYYYYYY!
 
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Trace Oswald wrote:

Jordan Holland wrote:One has to wonder if the ancient romans ever sat around arguing over the proper way to position their sponge-on-a-stick at the toilet.



I hate to meet the guy arguing for sponge-up.



I wouldn't mind meeting him; I just wouldn't want to shake his hand!
 
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For the past 10+ years I flip the roll around to come over the front.  The missus usually changes the rolls.  I'm not sure if she's deliberately putting it over the back or if it's random and I only notice when it's wrong.  
 
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Over the top, here. Under disturbs me just enough that I'll often flip the roll, even away from home, and in a public bathroom, that often means lock picking. My skills continue to improve! (J/k!!!)

And, just for the record, down with butt-sponges-on-a-stick!
 
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Butt sponge down IF it has a hanger of some sort so it's not just on the ground.  Or horizontally on a pair of sticks on the wall so that it can drip dry without getting the handle wet.
 
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Paper? Sponge? Stick? Why bother with high-tech gadgetry when you're sitting there with two perfectly good hands? The debate then becomes whether the hand should be supinated or pronated.
 
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Hell, why wipe at all? Lol! Ok, I think we've hit rock bottom. Or have we...?
 
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"Rock bottom" is the medical term for the condition that results from not bothering to... okay, nadir has been reached.
 
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And at the bottom of the rocks it's all sticky brown of asst compost and animal waste...
Which means we have hit the bottom of the poop pile here :D
 
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Dc Stewart wrote:Paper? Sponge? Stick? Why bother with high-tech gadgetry when you're sitting there with two perfectly good hands? The debate then becomes whether the hand should be supinated or pronated.



I feel fortunate that I have hands to manage this task (preferably with paper). Just look at what cats and dogs have to do. Cats are mostly dainty about it but our dogs seem to take delight in making squelchy noises during the process then come give me a big kiss. Brrrrr.
 
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Dc Stewart wrote:Paper? Sponge? Stick? Why bother with high-tech gadgetry when you're sitting there with two perfectly good hands? The debate then becomes whether the hand should be supinated or pronated.



True paper does seem like a waste. A lot of places use water and cloth, or water and hand. Water keeps things pretty clean with less scratchiness.

Come to think of it western toilets are pretty non-ideal for a lot of people. The 90 degree angles aren't the most conducive to waste removal. If you ever noticed you want to bend forward while on the toilet, that's your body trying to achieve a full squat position, which is ideal.

I think I've just imagined some redesigns of the willow feeders to add luxury to life of more permies.

Cheers for thinking about how to perfect the poopy experience.
 
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My boys loved to tear toilet paper from the roll when they were small. In the beginning, I rolled it back, but soon came to the conclusion that there are more worthwile pursuits in life.
The toilet got clogged a couple of times.
And our consumption of the said product rivalled that of a hotel.
Luckily, it passed.
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:

My solution if I have rowdy kittens is to put the toilet paper out of their reach until they outgrow that stage.



We avoided the toilet paper wastage with the new pup by doing this so he turned his attention to the bins and chews up used tissues instead.

Our older dog must have been whispering in his ear.

I am definitely in the toilet paper from the top camp and have been known to turn the roll over if my husband puts it on the "wrong" way around!
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How deranged are we if we keep our TP sideways?
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Christopher Weeks wrote:How deranged are we if we keep our TP sideways?



I wondered when someone would bring this up. We've done the sideways TP thing and it works nicely. I love the holder you have. New uses for cat butts.
 
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I'm trying to picture the mechanics of turning the body sideways to match the sideways TP orientation.
 
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Well, over the top to the front is both my preference and the inventor's so that's one. I will change it if it isn't, whether it's my TP or not.
The other preference is "sideways", and then I honestly can't remember if CW or CCW was better, but the best part is when it comes to changing the roll, just lift off and drop on.
The spring-loaded spindles are the worst.
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:For the past 10+ years I flip the roll around to come over the front.  The missus usually changes the rolls.  I'm not sure if she's deliberately putting it over the back or if it's random and I only notice when it's wrong.  


I figured it out!  She's a random heathen.  Not sure if I'm happy or sad...
 
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Megan Palmer wrote:What is it about toilet paper, puppies and cats?


Let's not leave out toddlers!
 
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I find the best moss grows straight up. I've yet to find suitable stuff growing sideways and can't say I've even seen any growing down...
 
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