The Free Heat Movie has a shiny new website!

Andres worked some of his characteristic magic over at:

freeheat.info

Check it out!  Try to break it!  Poke around!  Buy something!  

Does everything work?  Is everything spelled right?  Do the margins look weird on you obscure, hoity-toity browser?

We want this page to be 1000% amazing in the next few days so we can tell the world about Rocket Mass Heat!

Some thoughts:

"if you live Montana" - It you live IN Montana?  

I like the green font, but for "rmh" in lower case, they run together.  ) edit - maybe this should either be always CAPS or always lower case. It is used both ways on the page. Caps would be easier to read in the puffy green font.

(34.99+14.50).8 = 39.59. not 39.99...

Since the pebble style plans are free, you might put them at the bottom of the list (not at the top) of 3D plans in the bundle for purchase.


Looks good!

Sandy

there is a typo in # 2 you are missing the word in and the stove spinning at the top could be slowed down it makes me have vertigo
thanks

One more comment.  When you are on the landing page, and click MOVIE icon, it opens a new page. Then on that second page when you click home it opens yet another page.  I now have five pages open...  

S Smithsson wrote:One more comment.  When you are on the landing page, and click MOVIE icon, it opens a new page. Then on that second page when you click home it opens yet another page.  I now have five pages open...  

This was an intentional choice but maybe it could be too much. I think the homepage can open new tabs but the movie and plans pages can all stay in one loop. Thanks again Sandy!

What do you think?

Works well on my system [firefox 108.XXX, Ubuntu 20.04]
Even my security/privacy settings [disconnect, privacy badger, enhanced tracking protection, VPN] didn't break it. Well done!

Beau Davidson wrote:Andres worked some of his characteristic magic over at:

freeheat.info

Check it out!  Try to break it!  Poke around!  Buy something!  

Does everything work?  Is everything spelled right?  Do the margins look weird on you obscure, hoity-toity browser?

We want this page to be 1000% amazing in the next few days so we can tell the world about Rocket Mass Heat!

I noticed three things that seemed slightly nitpicky. See screenshots below

The thing bugging me is that the "free heat" says the only requirement is knowledge - but that's false.  It requires a foundation stronger than what my - and many - houses have.  No where on the front page is this mentioned.   We bought Wisner's book and that is when we learned we CANNOT build a RMH without compromising our foundation, or hiring experts for thousands of dollars to rebuild.

This is frustrating bait-and-switch that I would hope Paul/Permies would be more upfront about. Until such corrections are made to the "requirements" on the main website, I cannot in good conscience share it with my local peeps knowing they will have the same sinking-foundation issues.

Briana Great wrote:The thing bugging me is that the "free heat" says the only requirement is knowledge - but that's false.  It requires a foundation stronger than what my - and many - houses have.  No where on the front page is this mentioned.   We bought Wisner's book and that is when we learned we CANNOT build a RMH without compromising our foundation, or hiring experts for thousands of dollars to rebuild.

This is frustrating bait-and-switch that I would hope Paul/Permies would be more upfront about. Until such corrections are made to the "requirements" on the main website, I cannot in good conscience share it with my local peeps knowing they will have the same sinking-foundation issues.

Thanks for your input Briana! I understand your concern, the movie not only includes rocket mass heaters but goes beyond and considers a wide range of solutions that the rocket technology can offer, knowledge that is being developed in many ways. This movie is a continuation of the development of this tech, and you can find a lot more information in previous films (with the participation of the Wisners) as mentioned in the intro of the movie:  


The movie also experiments with commercial rocket heaters, the cottage rocket, coaxial heat exchangers, rocket stoves, kiln, and a lot more. Some of these adress the issues you expose and offer a solution.

Do you think we could be more clear about this? Our aim is to reach as many people as possible and get them excited to learn more about it, implement what is useful to them, and to then push the technology even further.

Good job overall!  

My input.

1. Please slow down the orbiting stove graphic on home page to 1/2 speed or less.  
2. On Movie page.  Add "These Topics are Covered:"  or "Topics Include:"   at end of the paragraph or between the paragraph and Basics, 8", 6", etc.

Notes for images attached.
1. Ernie & Erica Wisner bio:  confusing sentence:  Thermal mass soaks up....   kids and pets (warmth? odors?)
   
2. Sauna Rocket Heater pic:   typo "wto" instead of "to"

3. Earth Globe ad:  for clarity spell out Rocket Mass Heater or capitalize RMH

To be more clear: I guess, yes, stating that there are solutions for smaller scale and lighter-weight options.  People like me - something around 3-4 on Paul's Permaculture scale - who have aspirations to move on and just enough knowledge to feel limited won't go any further thinking our home cannot encorporate Rocketry.  We seriously bought the book 18 months ago intending to make a homeschool project based on it, only to learn that we couldn't.  I have yet to find something we CAN use - especially frustrating with the $100 LNG bill (double our previous highest) with a full cord of split Alder >.<

Can someone create a "which one is right for me?" FAQ - Time is a valuable resource and most people search only about half a minute for an answer.  I did not see one that even looked like it would work where I live (flood plains).

Briana Great wrote:The thing bugging me is that the "free heat" says the only requirement is knowledge - but that's false.  It requires a foundation stronger than what my - and many - houses have.  No where on the front page is this mentioned.   We bought Wisner's book and that is when we learned we CANNOT build a RMH without compromising our foundation, or hiring experts for thousands of dollars to rebuild.

This is frustrating bait-and-switch that I would hope Paul/Permies would be more upfront about. Until such corrections are made to the "requirements" on the main website, I cannot in good conscience share it with my local peeps knowing they will have the same sinking-foundation issues.

You now have the knowledge of what will work and won't work.  Before you did not.  Further, you now have the knowledge to be able to infect more brains, and you have the knowledge about what you need to do this in the future.

And ... as for foundation ...  I have built several of these in structures with wooden floors.  What are your needs that are so different?

Briana Great wrote:Can someone create a "which one is right for me?" FAQ

We are currently working on the big infographic and the plan is that when we are done there to make a mega FAQ.

Site looks great! Love the graphics and clean site feel.

Noticing the first two 'Buy' links and 'free plans' link open new tabs to paypal/permies (expected behavior). Third buy link opens in same window (bug).

I almost bought just the suana rocket heater plans on the bundle page, but then bought the whole bundle just in time. Maybe it would be helpful to emphasize you get ALL THIS INCLUDED IN THE BUNDLE! YAY! or maybe it is obvious and I just didn't notice. I suspect that showing the individual items in the bundle, like you have, will lead to a user buying the bundle 90% of the time.

Also I'm mixing up 'Free heat', 'Free plans', and 'Buy the plans'. The heat is free, and some of the plans are free, but some of the plans you buy. I click on 'Free information about rocket heaters' and read my free information, but then I click on 'Free heat plans and movie' but this is a product I buy, and the heat is what is free, not the plans and movie. What about not using the word free on links to buy stuff? Or maybe the 'free heat' thing is the whole basis of the marketing play and you can't do that? Just my thoughts.

On the "https://freeheat.info/free-heat-movie/" page -

Under "Lorena style rocket cooktop" - typos: "The rocket cooktop just got an upgrade! The Lorena design allows for the rocket falme to heat the pot directly."

Under "Sauna rocket heater" - typos: "Uncle Mud's cottage design has been adapted to the sauna at Wheaton Labs. Find out hoe to make a ver efficient rocket heather to sweat it out."

Under "The Liberator commercial heater" - typos: "The Liberator is a commercial rocket heater available in the USA, we tested it's capabilities alongside Sjy Huddleston, the creator of this contraption." (capitalize 'we' and take out the apostrophe in 'it's)

Under "Challenges with the 4 inch j tubes" - grammar: "We no longer use 4 inch j-tubes at Wheaton Labs, find out why and the reasons the 6 inch j-tubes is a far better option for us." (change 'is' to 'are')

:) Love this site!!!

On the "freeheat.info/free-heat-plans/" page:

Under the "Sauna Rocket Heater" - typos: "3D plans with step by step instructions for a rocket heater designed wto quickly warm small spaces like saunas or other structures." (change to 'to')

The following comment is just a thought and stems from my bad habit of editing and proofing numerous things for people.

Reading through each write-up and description, the grammar-ish things get me! ..haha.. Like not hyphenating "step-by-step" or "2-hour" and the like. SO - a suggestion would be to ensure that the way you write things is consistent throughout the entire website. SO, if you choose not to hyphenate "pebble style" - then don't hyphenate one and not the others. An example of this is at the bottom of the 'freeheat.info/free-heat-plans/": "FREE Pebble Style Rocket Mass Heater 3D Plans - Sign Up to our Newsletter at permies.com and get a free copy of the 3D plans detailing the Pebble-Style Rocket Mass Heater that is approachable for anyone from the novice to the seasoned RMH builder."  Note that one 'pebble style' is hyphenated, and the other is not.

PS - another suggestion would be to make a clickable link to anything you mention that has a .com (or similar) such as "permies.com" - - make it a link for a person to click straight into the website - but - make sure that when they click it opens a new window so as not to take them away from the freeheat.info site.

OK - enough from me. :)

On the "freeheat.info/free-heat-movie" page, under "Meet the instructors!":

These write-ups each have a few "grammar" issues, such as missing commas, etc. - - but besides that, the notable typos are as follows:

Sky Huddleston (note: is the name "Sky" or "Sjy"? Under the Liberator commercial heater it is spelled "Sjy".
is an experienced entrepreneur with a demonstrated history of working in the renewable energy industry and commercializing obscure technologies. Over a decade of combustion system engineering experience including the engineering of diesel engines, aircraft engines, and biomass combustion systems for residential and commercial applications. Extensive experience in mechanical engineering, drafting, and design. He is currently the CEO of Liberator Rocket Heaters, which has the worlds first and only rocket mass heater that is tested and certified to being compliant with UL-1482, ULC-S627, ATSM-E-1509 safety standards, and fully EPA certified.  (place an apostrophe in worlds)

J.R. Megee
is a turkey herding, pig wrangelin permaculture lovin handyman that people are crazy enough to give him money for, Rocket mass heater builder, and certified Garden Master. Was in the first permaculture design coarse at Wheaton Lab also has been through Geoff Lawton's online design coarse.  (change to 'course' )

I find this site design very inviting. It works perfectly well on my old acer chromebook using chrome browser. I am really grateful for all the folks who spent a LOT of time putting this together.

Concern 1: I, too, have concern with where "free" is used: changing "Free Heat Plans and Movie" to Plans and Movies for/about Free Heat would go a long way in clarity for me.

#2: I would love to not have to dig to get info on rocket stoves: for people who've done all the reading, the info is there, but ... please see below

paul wheaton wrote:
You now have the knowledge of what will work and won't work.  Before you did not.  Further, you now have the knowledge to be able to infect more brains, and you have the knowledge about what you need to do this in the future.

Paul, I can appreciate your frustration of having helped gather all this useful info and made it available only to have someone not appreciate to read/watch it all. So much work has gone into getting to this point.

That said, I, and I am sure many others, have watched friends and family members eyes glaze over as we wax eloquent on the marvels and mysteries of fire and how it all works. And why RMH tech is a solution to expensive heating.  Most folks don't have the bandwidth to 'suffer' through the details, even when they want the solution.   I REALLY look forward to being able to direct such folk to a page that gives the bottom line: that is to say the options available for an apartment or house that has a chimney access, a dwelling that does not have that, my one-room (12'x8') dwelling, etc... I would love to see a pic of RMH and/or rocket stove hooked up to through an old fireplace ... I think these can make FreeHeat.info even more successful in our scheme for world domination.

And again I want to express appreciation, cause not enough of that is ever done (yet).

We started here https://permies.com/heat

And that led to https://permies.com/w/rmh

And the thing we know we have to do next is

   https://permies.com/wiki/204534/creating-heat-infographic

And as soon as that is done ramp up the FAQ

Of course, the root of all this is that it seems that a hundred people would pour out of the woodwork to see to it that this gets done, but so far about 98% of it has been me and mud.  So it will probably be quite a while.

All that said:  the purpose of this thread is the new web page by andres!

Thanks so much for all this awesome feedback!

   - Main rotating gif moves 0.5x slower
   - Home page opens new tabs but movie and plans loop back
   - Typos and grammar corrected
   - Buy links double checked
   - Earth image tweaked

Beau Davidson wrote:
Does everything work?

Looks fine via Brave Browser - except, is the "1" title truncated?
Version 1.45.118 Chromium: 107.0.5304.91 (Official Build) (64-bit)
see attached 1024x768 screenshot


If you are HUGOing the site with Markup I'd say that there is a paragraph spacing between the hash title and secondary hash subtitle string that needs deleting.


I'll check in again when Ladybird browser goes large.
https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/

Don't forget to register the site and others at Brave if you want me to regularly donate (BAT) Basic Attention Tokens to the site on a monthly basis.

Item 2 says hundredth the smoke, on item 3 in Paul's quote  it says thousandth the smoke.

Also in the World icon green text  switch from electric heat to rocket mass heaters (plural)  - should this be singular?

Question about the pay with paypal.  After you go through entering your details, the only option you have is AGREE AND CREATE ACCOUNT.  What if you DONT want an account? I know you can do this, but this option is not there. Can you add that?  Also, if you get that far, and don't want to create a PayPal account, when you click return to merchant you get taken to : https://permies.com/forums?token=EC-7AT47152UV608670C. Is this the intended behavior?

Sandy

[quote=S Smithsson
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Question about the pay with paypal.  After you go through entering your details, the only option you have is AGREE AND CREATE ACCOUNT.  What if you DONT want an account? I know you can do this, but this option is not there. Can you add that?  Also, if you get that far, and don't want to create a PayPal account, when you click return to merchant you get taken to : https://permies.com/forums?token=EC-7AT47152UV608670C. Is this the intended behavior?

Sandy


FWIW, I just had the opportunity (?) to donate to another site via paypal (on an iphone).  When I click on the link to pay with paypal, underneath the zip code box is a toggle switch to "Save your info and create a PayPal Account" and if it is toggled off , the button says DONATE NOW.  

If it is toggled on, the button says "Create Account & Donate Now"

Not sure if that can be an option on the Free Heat site when using PayPal?

Sandy

We thought we had paypal all set up to do it the "guest" way, but apparently not.  

Did you see the crypto option?

We are currently exploring adding a third option.

paul wheaton wrote:We thought we had paypal all set up to do it the "guest" way, but apparently not.  

Did you see the crypto option?

We are currently exploring adding a third option.

I don't see the crypto option now, I am on chrome on a pc, clicking on the buy the combo option. Then I thought I would do them all, here are results:


First - 6 3d plans, opens new window, and PP only --no crypto option
Second - movie - new window and PP only
Third - combo - opens in same window and PP only

If I click cancel and return to merchant all three take me to PERMACULTURE & HOMESTEADING DISCUSSION FORUMS page.

sandy

Hmmm....   screen shots?

paul wheaton wrote:Hmmm....   screen shots?

here they are
Hope these help!

Yowza.  So you click on the thing to purchase (on the freeheat.info page) and it goes directly to paypal?

paul wheaton wrote:Yowza.  So you click on the thing to purchase (on the freeheat.info page) and it goes directly to paypal?

Yes, Sir.
Seems to me that before (week or so ago, and perhaps different browser, I cant recall) I did see the crypto option.

Were you logged in to permies on the browser where you clicked the buy button on?

I was not logged in.
Logged in, here is what I get (same thing for option 1 and 2)

Briana,
Here's some examples of rocket heaters I have built that heat my house without collapsing the sketchy trailer foundation. The mass does need to be spread out instead of concentrated like the Wisners' designs.

or one that works with an even sketchier foundation