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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum. Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Rocket.

This BB requires you to start a rocket hot water heater and get the water temperature over 140 . You are not required to build your own rocket hot water heater but you will need access to one.



Some threads on Hot Water with a Rocket Heater:
  - Rocket Hot Water Heater the SAFE Way
  - Rocket Mass Heater Hot Water
  - Rocket Stove Hot Water for Hot Tub
  - Rocket Stove Heat Water

How a Rocket Hot Water Heater Works




To get certified for this Badge Bit you must provide:
  - 6 pictures
       o pic of starting materials before fire
       o pic of fire started
       o pic of additional wood added
       o pic of more additional wood added
       o pic of water sample being extracted
       o pic of water sample temperature being measured at 140 degrees F or more
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Aloha!

While at the 2019 PDC / ATC I was able to make hot water in the non-pressurised water tank. The hot water was for doing the dishes. It was quick and easy!

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wood fired water heater
wood fired water heater
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wood fired water heater
wood fired water heater
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wood fired water heater
wood fired water heater
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hot water from wood fired heater
hot water from wood fired heater
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water temperature from wood fired heater
water temperature from wood fired heater
Staff note (paul wheaton) :

For anybody doing this BB later, note that there are six pics required. I certify this BB is complete!

Staff note (Mike Haasl) :

And Kay added them farther down in the thread

 
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I'm here at Wheaton Labs for the 'Soil Magic week but since I'm here I'm smashing out BBs with the help of all the boots and Fred!

Here is my attempt at the BB using the Rocket Hot Water for the showers!

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fire starting supplies
fire starting supplies
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fire starting materials
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wood fired water heater
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wood fired water heater
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wood fired water heater
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checking water temperature
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hot water from wood fired heater
hot water from wood fired heater
Staff note (Steve Thorn) :

I certify this BB is complete!

 
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These are my starting materials.



These are my starting materials before starting the fire.



These are my starting materials after starting the fire.



This is after I added some wood.



This is after I added even more wood.



This is a picture of me extracting a water sample.



This is me measuring the temperature of the water sample I took, which is above 140 degrees Fahrenheit.

Staff note (Mike Haasl) :

I hereby certify this BB complete!

 
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Kay Gelfling wrote:Aloha!

While at the 2019 PDC / ATC I was able to make hot water in the non-pressurised water tank. The hot water was for doing the dishes. It was quick and easy!



And I took maybe 30 pictures, and I have a lot of trouble uploading pictures from my Android and I missed some. I kept selecting the ring one our of hundreds of tiny thumbnails and then having to back and accidentally deleting the one I got, sigh.

Here are the photos I should have had before- the supplies for the hot water making. I'm sorry I didn't notice! At least I still have all the pictures! Better late than never?
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wood fired water heater
wood fired water heater
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wood fired water heater
wood fired water heater
 
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Hello there!
While at the 2019 PEP Jamboree, I ran the rocket water heater at the shop:
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Starting material before fire
Starting material before fire
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Fire started
Fire started
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More wood!
More wood!
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More wood!!
More wood!!
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Water sample being drawn
Water sample being drawn
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Water above 140°F
Water above 140°F
Staff note (Mike Haasl) :

I certify this BB complete!

 
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I heated water with the rocket water heater behind the shop.  Several notes:
  • Currently (2020) the spigot is leaking so you have to turn it on and off to conserve water when you're not needing water
  • When you're done using water, first shut it off at the heater (both valves) before shutting it off at the hydrant or it will drain your hot water back down the spigot
  • When you take a test sample, turn on the hydrant, open the valves at the heater to get a quart or two of water, close the two valves, measure your temp and close the hydrant.  If you run more water out, you'll be just adding more cold water to heat
  • You need a hose with female ends on both ends to hook up this system.  That hose is at the south end of the shop.
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    Starting materials
    Starting materials
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    Fire started
    Fire started
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    Wood added
    Wood added
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    More wood added
    More wood added
    Even-more-wood-added.jpg
    Even more wood added
    Even more wood added
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    Taking sample
    Taking sample
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    167F
    167F
    Staff note (jordan barton) :

    I hereby certify this badge bit complete!

     
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    I fired up the water heater for the showers at Wheaton Labs.
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    Materials.
    Materials.
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    Beginning.
    Beginning.
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    More wood.
    More wood.
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    More wood again.
    More wood again.
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    Hot water.
    Hot water.
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    Hot water coming out.
    Hot water coming out.
    Staff note (jordan barton) :

    I hereby certify this badge bit complete!

     
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