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Carolyne Castner wrote:
A lot of the BBs feel completely out of reach for me; living in a suburban neighborhood with an HOA. I don't have access to "earthworks" tools and machinery and it doesn't really seem like something pertinent to my current lifestyle. Lots of the BBs seem interesting, but very inconvenient or expensive to actually do.
That being said, I can see how useful the skills are to a more sustainable agro setup. I do want to eventually inherit the family land in the Hill Country and know that some of these skills are things that could be extremely useful to that end. But the steps provided to learn them in the BBs feel unatainable which leaves me feeling frustrated and slightly trapped in my current surroundings.
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R Ranson said "I'm wondering if there is some way of gamifying it.
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r ranson wrote:For me, breaking it down into smaller steps.
Yes, it's already broken down, but it's also very busy. Having different forums for each kind of badge helps a lot.
I'm wondering if there is some way of gamifying it.
Trace Oswald wrote:I wrote a long reply to this and lost it. Argh. I'll shorten it and just give an example. First, let me point out that I just pick and choose among the different areas and find something I want to or am going to do anyway, and then I take a few pictures. I'm not sure I'll ever complete any one area though. The gardening one is an example. Chop and drop, I use anyway. I can do that one in less than an hour, and it's something I do on a pretty continual basis, so I just took some pictures and added them to the thread. Contrast with the hugel bit. I don't know where to get Sepp grain, and I'm not interested in growing grain anyway, so that one doesn't interest me. Additionally, my understanding was that the bits should take an hour or two (going by memory, that may be wrong). I think someone asked Paul about the time frame for building a hugel in that time and his response was something like "use an excavator". It feels to me like that takes it out of contention for about 99% of the people that would read it. Regardless, it's Paul's program and he can structure it to fall in line with his likes/dislikes. There are still lots of other BBs that I will probably document. I just can't see finishing many of the areas because my needs and likes are so different.
Flora Eerschay wrote:Just an idea: perhaps people could set the challenge for themselves, document it, and then a group of more experienced members and/or Staff would decide which badge should be awarded for that?
This way, it would be more fun and suitable for the person, and still informative for everyone else. And it would be different each time.
For example, there is a "Tour de Fleece" challenge in the online yarn spinners/knitters community. They decide what they want to do during the Tour de France race, and then complete the task.
How about Tour de Permies? ;)
Michael Cox wrote:The turn off for me, on multiple BBS, has been the focus on the very narrow set of conditions that hold under Paulās circumstances.
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paul wheaton wrote:Maybe we can line up a couple dozen packets of sepp holzer grain here. With maybe 42 seeds in each packet. And then the first 24 people that get PEP0 certified, we will mail them a packet.
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Michael Cox wrote:The turn off for me, on multiple BBS, has been the focus on the very narrow set of conditions that hold under Paulās circumstances.
Yes, that makes it hard. And it makes it of value.
Of course, an alternative would be:
- go to harvard, fork over money, live there, and do what those people say to do
- afterwards, get a job to pay all that money back
- pay all the bills racked up while paying that money back
- save up to buy your retirement package
- buy the land, the house, the truck, the tractor and have some buffer in the bank
or:
- get PEP4 certified, mostly on your own, find a way to do it
- get the land, the house, the truck, the tractor and a pile of coin from Otis
Life is about choices. If this is hard, then don't do it.
Of course, Ash is asking about how to get people involved, and you are saying "the whole thing is too hard". Fair. I do think that this is why PEA still needs to be developed - it will utterly wipe away the whole "I can't do that at my house/region/whatever."
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paul wheaton wrote:Suppose we defined PEP0 to be 20 specific BBs. Things that anybody, anywhere could do. What would be those 20 BBs?
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Nails are sold by the pound, that makes sense.
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Kenneth Elwell wrote:I'm not sure that I understand the BB5, BB10, BB20 badge idea.
Are those BBs also counting towards other badges? for example: the woodworking sand badge?
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Or... is it a sort of running tally of BBs completed, regardless of BADGES achieved? and sort of layered on top of the other badges? So, maybe by the time you reach PEP2 you have also reached BB250, and by PEP3 you're at BB400? (numbers not necessarily to scale.)
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Michael Cox wrote:
Woven Hazel Hedgelaying - to be properly stock proof Drystone walling - where collecting stones and clearing land for agriculture combine Junkpole fence Deadhedge
A more generic version of this could be "Using found or harvested materials, build 12ft of fence to protect an area of crops". The person completing it can explain their choice, and what they are protecting against. If you need to protect an area against cows, you need a very different fence compared to someone protecting against chickens, and against deer.
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paul wheaton wrote:Maybe it would help to make a list of the 20 easiest BBs?
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