!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Permaculture Playing Cards 2.0

We’re in the process of making a new deck of the permaculture playing cards and overhauling the previous one to make an update. I think this project is KickStarter worthy, would you be interested in supporting this endeavor?

What permaculture related subjects would you like to see covered in them?

I think a good color for the new deck is blueberry pie

Please help me convince Paul this be our next KickStarter :)

Here is a draft sample for one of the back covers, any feedback is greatly appreciated!

yes please

I love the back cover i idea! I haven't actually been able to get a deck yet but I love the idea! Id love it to have something about swells and Compaion planting!

Love them

People I've given the V1.0 cards to have loved them.  I find the text a bit small/soft so they are a bit hard to read.  Might be worth improving font readability, or at least not making it any worse.

Having a physical kickstarter reward is always quite nice.

Yes! Yes! And yes!

The original version of the deck is already on my far away property! (to be perfectly honest, my daughter's property, with her and her family) So I've not even been able to drool over them, much less closely inspect each card! Having a 2nd deck, that is a bit different, would be fun. What new things will we learn about permaculture on a newly redesigned deck!!?

And because I've not had my hands on the original deck, I can't really make suggestions. But it is my thought that if the information is drastically different, you will have created an entirely new product, and sell many more! Plus start a series of desirable decks! Collectors from far and wide will begin to collect the different decks.

That's my 2 cents.

As someone mentioned, the font on the original cards is rather small; I decided to give the deck away because it was too small to read comfortably, and the color of brown against a lighter brown made it even more difficult.  So make the text bigger and more of a contrast to the background would be my first suggestion.

Ideas could include companion planting (with charts of what to plant with what); water harvesting ideas; natural alternatives to nasty gook to deal with diseases (they happen, even with good horticultural practices); urban gardening; and storage of harvest, especially for city dwellers.

Also, consider making the deck a cheerful color that would draw attention, rather than the light brown it is now (a natural color, but not an interesting one).

And I would support a Kickstarter for this.

Anyone else giving the gift of cards?
In all seriousness yes v2.0 would be fun especially for games where you use more than 1 deck. I hope there would be a "reprint" of the original deck in an easier to read format and a new deck of completely new topics maybe in a slightly different color scheme!
Also my sister gave me a game called "A Quiet Year" by Buried Without Ceremonie. In it you build a hypothetical community, building features/resources and having random events cause problems. While the players shape the community they are not individual people but more faction/directives inherent in the community. I think this game could be either awesome or cause divorces, it might be a filter you can run potential intentional communities partners through to see if you'd "fit" together. It also uses a standard playing deck to channel the game so I now want to blend the 2 decks together using permaculture to suggest projects.

Okay I tried "A Quiet Year" as solitaire and wouldn't recommend unless you are using the permies cards to suggest projects. The cards are larger than standard so hard to shuffle so permies suffered by suite in the future I'll shuffle the full deck and if 2 of same number are drawn in the same season stack it on the bottom.
The large size did make me think it might help with reading if there's a "Large Type Books" option to the permies cards.
Use what you know - I set my community in a looted neighborhood in the PNW. So for abundance Food and scarcity drinkable Water, Shelter, Metal, and Transport. Near seawater, houses were stripped of wire/ pipes, abandoned cars little more than the frame but plenty of plants and animals to eat if you know how to forage. First week a headstrong girl side tracked part of the community with setting up a mushroom farm. Next week a question about family organization had me decide that the 60 ish people were divided up in mostly nuclear family units, some multi generational based on nuclear but of the 5 family sketches I had gay couple as well, discussion ran about wither the mushrooms were worth splitting the communitys time and resources on. Third week cast iron sent a scavenger party to help refit the lost plumbing and wiring. Fourth greywater prompted started willow feeder construction. Fifth had siblings squabble over foraging chores and more discussion on the mushrooms. Sixth feral pigs began harassing the settlement as the mushrooms finally paid off. Seventh we started a stockade defense against the pigs, this is a massive project so should take 6 weeks to finish each of the four sides. Eighth live stock guardian suggested a counter to fortifying against the pigs and a hunt was discussed as our scavenger party returned triumphantly ending metal scarcity. Ninth the community discovered that though the marina was smashed in the apocalypse it's boat launch crain should be fixable. Tenth the pigs multiplied making their threat much worse than anticipated and discussing fixing the crain and finishing the bathroom. Eleventh wofati prompted a discussion about housing. Twelve a hunt to thin the pig probablem while the 1st fencing was completed.  Thirteenth the crain debate rages on. Spring ends.

Would love to see this happen. Would also love a plastic card option. Just like Paul, I'm not a fan of plastic in general, but in the case of these cards, I'd like an option I can buy that will last. My current sets don't get used anymore because they damage too easily when traveling with them, will definitely be ruined when outdoors in any moist environment, or are already worn enough to be unusable for any competitive game. What I'm left with is a bunch of worn out sets and one set I won't ever use or bring out because I want to keep it in good shape. Kinda defeats the purpose of owning them.

"Paper or Plastic?
There are actually three different kinds of materials playing cards are made of: plastic, vinyl, and paper. Plastic cards are the most durable, highest quality cards and are used in almost all casinos. Vinyl cards are a good, slightly cheaper choice, though they will bend and won't last as long as the 100% plastic cards. Paper is the cheapest and least durable -- the corners will fold, and you'll have to get new ones often. But in a pinch, paper cards are better than none."
https://www.liveabout.com/buying-a-deck-of-playing-cards-2728282#:~:text=Plastic%20cards%20are%20the%20most,to%20get%20new%20ones%20often.

My husband and I love these cards! We would like to see more diverse representation of people (more women and People of Color!) on the second deck of cards. Keep up the good work, Permies folks!

I think it's a great idea!!

Yes! And I like the blueberry pie color idea too.

Yes! I think it would be a great idea!

Can't wait to see what's in the new deck!  

What do we mean by the "purple deck"?

I think the color of the new deck will be purple, lick huckleberry pie?

Liv Smith wrote:What do we mean by the "purple deck"?

Beau Davidson wrote:I think the color of the new deck will be purple, lick huckleberry pie?

Yes! Blueberry pie colored

Is this in the works, yet?  Is there a Kickstarter, yet?  I vote "YES" for more cards!

The first post has 20 upvotes.  So 20 backers?  Kinda hard to build a kickstarter for 20 backers.

I'll push that upvote to 21!

Hello Permaculture Playing Cards 2.0 Enthusiasts!

As you may know, we are working on the Permaculture Playing Cards 2.0 deck, with the possibility of it becoming a future Kickstarter. If you’d like to see this project happen pls give a like to the first post in this thread.

Why do we create Permaculture Playing Cards? To infect more brains with Permaculture, of course! These cards are a simple, fun, and fast way to introduce permaculture to people who might have never even heard the word "permaculture".

We would like to invite you to help us with the creation of this beautiful set of cards. Here is the back card design we’ve come up with for now, what do you think? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

Help us choose a color by voting on the following  poor man's poll!! Please give a thumbs up to your favorite color in the posts ahead:

Paul's favorite, cause pie... you know.. Purple!!

Green:

Blue:

Yellow:

Red:

Sepia:

Black and white:

My opinion of a permaculture deck would be one that explains permaculture principles through pictures.

Like the kings can be Kultures, like one hugelkultur.  Perhaps it doesn't say hugelkultur, but depicts it in jmage but a pointing to with a written description of rotting wood.  The idea would be they could also be like flashcards used to teach people about an idea. Hydrokulture, growing in water, and polykulture could be two others.  

Perhaps something along these lines could be called Permaculture tactics playing cards, to differentiate any prior product or idea.

The 2s could be four different bird types, perhaps pictures of feeding methods or plants they like could be with them in picture.  The 4s can be garden animals, 6 insects, 8 spiders, but what about all the other numbers.  The Queen, Jack, 10, 9, 7, 5, 3, 1 are all unaccounted for in regards to actual permaculture teachings, tactics, or thoughts.  

I got the full affinity publishing suite on half off recently, so I could put in an effort into some professional cards.  I haven't printed any yet, but having the base models that I posted pictures of prior, I can modify them and add almost anything.

The issue is time.  The more detailed the image, the longer the print.  If someone has access to a sublimation printer, having them do the images, and you 3d print onto those sublimation prints, or something to that effect.  

Personally, I'm a sucker for sepia, for both the front and the back of the cards. I think it suits the old world style of the cards.

Re: background color for the new deck. Three colors made me say "Ooo, ahhh,"  so instead of voting for 1, I am ranking them. Most pizzaz = purple; most gorgeous in a refined way = green (also my favorite color, so biased); most wowee-zowee = yellow, which on my screen looks quite golden, so the overall impression is of richness.

I  like the purple, orange, and sepia.

By preference

1 PURPLE
2 GREEN
3 BLACK & WHITE