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-Le Livre du Colon, 1902
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paul wheaton wrote:
there are 7 billion people in the world, why spend another moment with somebody that is icky?
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-Le Livre du Colon, 1902
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The wishbone never could replace the backbone.
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paul wheaton wrote:hateful urges: how about therapy?
The core of this thread: to withdraw support from the haters. Hate is fueled by support. And, as pointed out in my PV1 keynote: the permies community has a hundred times more hate than the CR community. If we want permaculture to become a household word, we need to be far better at sorting that out within our community.
And he said, "I want to live as an honest man, to get all I deserve, and to give all I can, and to love a young woman whom I don't understand. Your Highness, your ways are very strange."
C. West wrote:maybe let it go? they made that video 2 years ago and it boiled down to very minor criticism
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paul wheaton wrote:
C. West wrote:maybe let it go? they made that video 2 years ago and it boiled down to very minor criticism
Give up permaculture?
Let people die of cancer?
Give up on climate change?
I have to ask because that is what I am talking about.
How can permaculture move forward to solve global problems if permies favor petty drama over decades of accomplishment and generous sharing.
It's not just me. Geoff Lawton, Willie Smits, Joel Salatin ... I suspect that Sepp Holzer has gotten the worst of it.
When you sit down and really think through "why is permaculture not a household word?" Don't just dismiss it, but really dig. I think the answer is "trolls shit on permaculture and permies allow it." In other words, permies say "let it go."
So I'll ask the next question, "Why do trolls shit on pemaculture?"When you sit down and really think through "why is permaculture not a household word?" Don't just dismiss it, but really dig. I think the answer is "trolls shit on permaculture and permies allow it." In other words, permies say "let it go."
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s. lowe wrote:Paul, I'm curious what your ideas are to combat that? It seems like engaging trolls just devolves into a shit throwing contest once you go beyond a single response.
For what it's worth, I think permaculture isn't a household word because the vast majority of people in the US watch many hours of commercial television every day and thus have their entire world view molded by the advertisers, primarily pharmaceutical companies, petrochemical companies, and agrichemical/industrial food companies. Sustainable self reliance is anathema to these industries that rely on broad and ignorant dependence for their profit and they invest heavily in setting the parameters of "acceptable discourse".
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Jay Angler wrote:So I'll ask the next question, "Why do trolls shit on pemaculture?"
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“You meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it.”
~ Carl Jung
Eric Thomas wrote:“The final relationship that cannot be ignored is with disrupters:
They're poison.”
― Jack Welch
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tommy stang wrote:have you considered not being a slumlord who literally collects barrels of human shit and doesn't even know how to compost them and is so thin-skinned that you blow up at the slightest criticism?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/77nm7e/two_years_under_a_permaculture_slumlord/
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Missionary/Rehab/Farmer in New England.
Trying to step off the wheel, so I can get from behind the wheel.
At my age, Happy Hour is a nap.
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
"... And being swept along is not enough." R.M. Rilke
paul wheaton wrote:
Jay Angler wrote:So I'll ask the next question, "Why do trolls shit on permaculture?"
From my first post: https://permies.com/t/34441/permaculture-velocity
“Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position. But certainty is an absurd one.”
― Voltaire
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Maybe I'm just too gullible, but I happen to think that "random acts of kindness", "smiling at strangers", "giving away edible plants and veggies" are some of the ways to "stand against the hate". I suspect it works better if it's done out of joy and love rather than charity - many people don't like to feel they need charity.paul wheaton wrote:"Haters gotta hate"
I think the core of what I need to address in this thread is:
no, they don't
in fact, that hate is fucked up
and, I think that hate is the beginning of truly awful things
so i choose to stand against the hate
i choose to strongly discourage the hate
The phrase "haters gotta hate" is the act of being permissive. The act of encouraging it.
And if you allow it to grow in your community, you should expect it to be at your doorstep someday. Only then it will be a thousand times bigger and a thousand times worse.
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