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Mike Haasl wrote:I've often heard the advice to "Eat Seasonally". I figure that at a minimum this means you shouldn't be trying to eat asparagus in the autumn. And it kind of means we should eat salads in early summer, gorge on tomatoes in September, eat apples in October. Easy peasy. But what do I do in February?
Some traditional winter foods I think of are chili, lasagna, chicken soup and roasted veggies. Those rely on things that are harvested in the fall and preserved. So does preserved food count towards eating seasonally?
Or is it eating with the seasons in the way my ancestors (northern European) would have? Meat and stored root crops?
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Mark Brunnr wrote:I thought the primary push for eating seasonally is that those foods can be harvested fresh locally ...
Mark Brunnr wrote:I thought the primary push for eating seasonally is that those foods can be harvested fresh locally, and because they don't travel 1000 miles they can be harvested when ripe, rather than harvesting unripe food and expecting it to finish ripening in the boat/truck. So more nutrition is gained by ripening. Plus less shipping hopefully means fewer resources spent on the shipping. So less overall environmental impact for eating in season.
If a person is growing their own food, then it's all in season whenever you harvest it, and you either eat it fresh or preserve it in a way that should maintain the nutrition, and probably little to no shipping costs between your garden and root cellar/pantry. If you buy at a farmers market you can buy in bulk to preserve it, and might get a better price that way.
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Mike Haasl wrote:Maybe I'm confused about the philosophy of the concept.
If the idea is to eat stuff that is abundant at the right time of year because our bodies have evolved to need them at that time, then I can imagine a health benefit from it.
If the idea is to avoid needing greenhouses to grow basil in the winter then I'm imagining an environmental benefit from it.
If there's another reason for it, that could generate a different benefit.
I guess I'm hoping that it's to align our food with the seasonal foods of our ancestors. Coincidentally that would be a low energy situation since they didn't have hot houses.
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Mike Haasl wrote:
If the idea is to eat stuff that is abundant at the right time of year because our bodies have evolved to need them at that time, then I can imagine a health benefit from it.
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Trace Oswald wrote:
Mike Haasl wrote:
If the idea is to eat stuff that is abundant at the right time of year because our bodies have evolved to need them at that time, then I can imagine a health benefit from it.
Mike, I look at it a little differently. Rather than thinking we have evolved to eat certain things at certain times because we need them, I think we evolved to be able to survive by eating the only things available at certain times of the year. In our climate, that means being able to eat meat and fat exclusively during the cold months, as people did for millions of years when there was no type of food storage yet developed.
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C Mouse wrote:
Trace Oswald wrote:
Mike Haasl wrote:
If the idea is to eat stuff that is abundant at the right time of year because our bodies have evolved to need them at that time, then I can imagine a health benefit from it.
Mike, I look at it a little differently. Rather than thinking we have evolved to eat certain things at certain times because we need them, I think we evolved to be able to survive by eating the only things available at certain times of the year. In our climate, that means being able to eat meat and fat exclusively during the cold months, as people did for millions of years when there was no type of food storage yet developed.
Well, food storage has been around for longer than most agriculture and even dairy consumption. Some forms have been around for about 10,000 years. Given that lactose tolerance developed in about 2500 years, it's fair to say that humans have probably had some dietary adaptations to at least SOME food preservation. But I think eating seasonally is good still.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/how-did-ancient-people-keep-their-food-from-rotting
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:I suspect "eat locally, eat what is in season" started as a pushback against the crazy supply chains we see in supermarkets. In order to keep some produce items (esp. fruit) in stock year-round, as customers have come to expect, they are shipped literally halfway around the world.
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Ellendra Nauriel wrote:
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If you have ancestors from several different climates, it's anybody's guess which adaptations you've inherited. It's even possible some of those adaptations may be contradictory, which leads to some interesting challenges even without trying to eat seasonally!
Mike Haasl wrote:I've often heard the advice to "Eat Seasonally". I figure that at a minimum this means you shouldn't be trying to eat asparagus in the autumn. And it kind of means we should eat salads in early summer, gorge on tomatoes in September, eat apples in October. Easy peasy. But what do I do in February?
Some traditional winter foods I think of are chili, lasagna, chicken soup and roasted veggies. Those rely on things that are harvested in the fall and preserved. So does preserved food count towards eating seasonally?
Or is it eating with the seasons in the way my ancestors (northern European) would have? Meat and stored root crops?
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Regarding bread, I wonder where the idea of bread being a complete food comes from. It certainly doesn't provide complete protein, and it's potentially dangerous to diabetics.
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