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You know you are a Permie when you got caught and heavily fined at the airport for bringing in Seeds from foreign countries...

In modern times the only right way forward is to come back to nature.

 
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Cargo bikes are cool

 
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Hi,

When you spend  9-12 hours working whilst keeping an eye out for stuff to add to your garden, to increase genetics, add resources. find ideas and read the land, analyse everything and steal ideas and concepts as well as thinking of how to tweak and improve.
only to go home and then study how to do so, and draw ideas,  then go for a bush walk grab some food, and grab some from the garden, add some meat cook dinner. get back to learning. go to sleep for 7 hours. and then spend the weekend tinkering and studying and thinking of ways to come up with passive income so you can earn more money to buy some acreage!

When you explain to someone using poison on clovers/dandylions/doc. why its wrong even though you know they will ignore you.

when you have a whole book case shelf dedicated to edible weeds.
another to wood working,
another to hydroponics,
another 3 to seeds,
another 2 to medicinal plants
another 1 to bees


when you watch a video on youtube, and you know who they have been inspired from, and you know what they are saying is wrong but still watch to try and learn.

When you think about the ethical aspects of Bill mollison being so burnt by ignorance and destruction of human lives and the environment for a dollar that he is anti capitalist in a sense, then compare that to Sepp Holzer who is all about capturing and storing the $$$.

when a 4 hour lecture on fungi sounds awesome.

when book stores now have permaculture books because you kept on asking for them, now they have over a shelf.

When you considered spending 300 dollars on a book on nematodes!

When someone says they want to hang a cows head in a chicken coop your first thought is not is this creepy, but how can they get the best results from doing this.

When you know all the gorilla planted food Forrest in the city,

when City serve is happening soon and you a dead set on doing gardening.

(city serve is an event where the people of the city participate in tasks given by the council to improve the city)

When all your colleges and friends Know why synthetic fertilisers are destructive for the environment.

When your college is building a fire pit and you have 15 plus designs!

When you have consider not being buried in a coffin or being cremated but letting animals eat you because you do not want to waste your nutrients!

When your neighbours talk to you about joining them for lunch, while your sharping a blade of some sort because they do not think twice about it!

When your neighbours start mimicking your gardening like you because they see it working well!

When you have made an impact towards more sustainable practices in your University, your Faith community, your neighbourhood.

When you can use your gardening skills to get dates! Because your that good!

When you consider practicing making every cut with secutaurs perfectly so you can build up speed, mastering speed and pressision.

When you can prune an entire line of branches without slowing down your walking,

when you hose a patch of grass on and off for hours just to better understand soil movements,

When you start fires on sticks to understand and manipulate wind.

When you have cylindrical mapping of your home, showing the flow of water and wind,
and you have other maps showing each aspect magnifies each other aspect.
And you have maps showing under performing places,

When your gardens fertility is constantly improving but you only want to focus on increasing the rate of development!

When you know a male date palm from a female.

when someone starts to talk about cows and methane and you are stunned with silence at how little they know!

When you have allotted a percentage of your spending budget towards permaculture books,

When you know your level 3 or 4, In the Wheaton scale, but You want to be Level 10.




Spero Meliora

 
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When you think your level 3 on the Wheaton Scale and Alex Moffitt posts and rather than being dismayed that you’re not as high up as you think you are, you’re totally inspired and wish you lived in his neighbourhood.

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When your son has a friend out to help pick corn and the friend ends up with a bloody hand while your sons don't even get a scratch.  The poor youngster got a cut on his finger from the old open pollinated corn.  I was proud of him though, after getting a patch he kept picking till dark.  Sometimes gaining them callouses hurt for a little bit, but he toughed it out.

The best place to pray for a good crop is at the end of a hoe!

 
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Flora Eerschay wrote:When you're at a restaurant and you order a dessert which comes with passionfruit sauce, and there are whole seeds in it, and you're tempted to collect them and plant them at home...



I know of a blogger who found a particularly tasty tomato in a salad and snuck out some seeds on a napkin, so you’re not alone lol 😂

Forever oscillating between wondering how I can fit everything I want to grow into my tiny urban garden (hahaha I can’t) and how to make enough money to buy my dream mini farm where I can grow everything I want to grow, raise chickens and be a haven for my local pollinators and wildflower species 😁🌱🌻

 
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When other people your age start showing off their grandbaby pics, and you're just as excited about sharing your baby goat pics!

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Deb Rebel wrote:You know you're a permie when:

You have a few delicate houseplants hiding in the bathroom under growlights (so you look at them several times a day while taking care of business) and you hide your pee jug with six drops of blue food coloring in it and marker on it "organic plant fertilizer" so in case you forget to move it because of guests, they don't question it.



Omg Deb the blue food colouring trick is genius, I gotta steal that!!! 👏👏👏 How do think of these things?

Forever oscillating between wondering how I can fit everything I want to grow into my tiny urban garden (hahaha I can’t) and how to make enough money to buy my dream mini farm where I can grow everything I want to grow, raise chickens and be a haven for my local pollinators and wildflower species 😁🌱🌻

 
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Edward Norton wrote:When you think your level 3 on the Wheaton Scale and Alex Moffitt posts and rather than being dismayed that you’re not as high up as you think you are, you’re totally inspired and wish you lived in his neighbourhood.



Awwe, Thanks!

Sometimes passion becomes infectious!

But I really do wish, that some permaculture groups formed together and went up to local councils and asked them how they could help - the local Government!

It can mean a lot when people just ask how can we help you!

From that opportunities can be created, to make a difference,

Spero Meliora

 
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When all you can think about during a walk in the neighborhood is how many garden beds could fit in each front lawn......

Little house with a big garden in the city!
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." ~ J. Krishnamurti

 
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When you take home the compostables from lunch at work for your compost bin...

Little house with a big garden in the city!
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When the kitchen is full of naturally dyed yarn hanging to dry...

Little house with a big garden in the city!
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When your neighbor comes over to tell you to oil the windmill.  So he comes over and says "every morning your windmill make a noise that sounds like it needs oil."  I was like, bud it is running right now.  Do you hear it?  He says "no".  Then about 2 minutes into the conversation he goes "there it is! "  I was like what, " I don't hear it."  He says "it is the wherwhit, wherwhit sound.  I was um... that is the guinea hens..

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If you have multiple alarms when stranger come to the homestead.  The gobbler goes off, the rooster goes off, the guineas go off, and the dog barks.  If someone is sneaking around the back, the goats go off and the steer goes off.  

It is funny I can work all day and everything is quite until someone else shows up, then it gets noisy.

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... when you wish you could take your poop home from work to put in your compost bin, and consider converting your car into a camper so you could go in there to get more humanure to take home ...

Little house with a big garden in the city!
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... when you do research on the city website to see what day all the houses on your commute get their yard waste picked up, so that you can load up bags of leaves in the back of your car in the early hours before work...

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If your sister in law comes over in an emergency to get eggs. She bought some store eggs and tried to sneak them to my nephew for breakfast this morning.  He spit them out of his mouth and said " what the heck are these, I can't eat these mom?"  

Looks like we have another generation of chicken farmers coming up!

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ok this one might just be me in my brand of plant geekery but -
when you are watching a movie or TV show and you spot an interesting plant in the background and then you try to do an ID, your mind even turning to proper latin botanical names, and maybe even point and say it out loud if you can actually ID it !

or related you cant help but notice inaccurate details about forests in movies or TV. like the show will be trying to present something as a wild forest, but to you its clearly a manicured park, maybe slightly over grown but not true wildness. you know what real messy unkempt wildness is, and its rarely in film. or say they try to portray an east coast forest, or another locale, but you can tell its actually west coast forest.well you can tell almost all forest in film or TV is west coast forest, mostly BC. now it is strange but i seriously cant help but notice weird discrepancies like that and i find it takes away from the movie magic, to have it be clearly a west coast forest, and they are playing it off like its somewhere else. now i bet most people dont notice this at all, but obviously different regions have very different types of forests, trees, ways...
 
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leila hamaya wrote:ok this one might just be me in my brand of plant geekery but -
when you are watching a movie or TV show and you spot an interesting plant in the background and then you try to do an ID, your mind even turning to proper latin botanical names, and maybe even point and say it out loud if you can actually ID it !

or related you cant help but notice inaccurate details about forests in movies or TV. like the show will be trying to present something as a wild forest, but to you its clearly a manicured park, maybe slightly over grown but not true wildness. you know what real messy unkempt wildness is, and its rarely in film. or say they try to portray an east coast forest, or another locale, but you can tell its actually west coast forest.well you can tell almost all forest in film or TV is west coast forest, mostly BC. now it is strange but i seriously cant help but notice weird discrepancies like that and i find it takes away from the movie magic, to have it be clearly a west coast forest, and they are playing it off like its somewhere else. now i bet most people dont notice this at all, but obviously different regions have very different types of forests, trees, ways...



You're definitely not alone :)  The east coast / west coast forest type discrepancies drive me mad! Totally ruins a movie for me sometimes.

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ok this one might just be me in my brand of plant geekery but -
when you are watching a movie or TV show and you spot an interesting plant in the background



I look at the plants "ooh, what is that, and can I grow that here?" and look it up. I learn some cool things!
So no, you are not the only plant geek of any stripe not paying attention to the plot at all times :D

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C Lundquist wrote:... when you do research on the city website to see what day all the houses on your commute get their yard waste picked up, so that you can load up bags of leaves in the back of your car in the early hours before work...



I wish I could get this many leaves this easily. I have to actually go into the street and sweep my own. I’m sure the neighbours wonder how my sudden desire for a leaf free doorstep ties in with the wild jungle I’m happy to entertain in the garden 😂

Forever oscillating between wondering how I can fit everything I want to grow into my tiny urban garden (hahaha I can’t) and how to make enough money to buy my dream mini farm where I can grow everything I want to grow, raise chickens and be a haven for my local pollinators and wildflower species 😁🌱🌻

 
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When I tear down an old shed and realize the roof was covered with many pounds of decomposed leaves.  Of course I stop tearing down the shed. Instead I grab my wheelbarrow and spend the day carting compost to my garden.

At my age, Happy Hour is a nap.

 
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I wish I could get this many leaves this easily. I have to actually go into the street and sweep my own. I’m sure the neighbours wonder how my sudden desire for a leaf free doorstep ties in with the wild jungle I’m happy to entertain in the garden 😂


If you play your cards right you can get paid to gather up other people's leaves. Or pull a Pearl, and do it for free, that's what I did last year. This year I'm telling my neighbors I'll loan them a leaf blower (and cord) if they tell me when they have a pile and I'll come get it. Works for everyone.
Try asking them if you can have their leaves, they will look at you as if you are crazy, and say "well, YES!"  

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And sort of related to the last post, I came here to put this...
When you realize you can justify almost anything weird you say to the neighbors with "it's for my garden" or "it's for my solar stuff"  or "I want to take it apart."


Are you throwing out that dead soaker hose, can I have it? "What will you do with it?" it's for my garden "It leaks"  I'm not putting water through it (she nods like that makes sense to her) and I haul it off.  It became a butterfly on the garden gate, she was stunned.



Can I have that dead water heater? "what will you do with it?" it's for my solar stuff "oh, that makes sense" (she nods like she has a clue what I'd do with it) and I haul it off.

Can  I have that vacuum? "what will you do with it? It doesn't work."  Take it apart to use the parts (she nods like that makes sense to her) and I haul it off.

My neighbors are a resource stream.
The things I get away with!! :D

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If you play your cards right you can get paid to gather up other people's leaves. Or pull a Pearl, and do it for free, that's what I did last year. This year I'm telling my neighbors I'll loan them a leaf blower (and cord) if they tell me when they have a pile and I'll come get it. Works for everyone.
Try asking them if you can have their leaves, they will look at you as if you are crazy, and say "well, YES!"  



Sadly I think I’m past the strange looks stage. I currently have 3x 40 litre potato bags stuffed full of compacted leaves, and that’s just from digging out my bf’s car today lol. My plan is basically claiming all the leaves on the street as my own....or at least as many as I can fit in my compost bin/shed. I don’t think anyone else uses them, but of course if someone’s kid wants some for an art project, or complains for some reason then I’ll leave their area of the street alone.

My concern is less to do with weird looks because of the leaves and more hoping next door didn’t see me sneaking out to pour my pee in the compost bin. A girl’s gotta balance out all that carbon somehow...

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Pearl Sutton wrote:And sort of related to the last post, I came here to put this...
When you realize you can justify almost anything weird you say to the neighbors with "it's for my garden"



😂 Totally use that line on my boyfriend. Either that or “It’s for an experiment” and then just leave it at that. I think he’s scared to ask.

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when you are totally excited and interrupt your breakfast because the neighbor texts "What is this in my yard?!" In the past calls like that have ranged from day old kittens (who grew up to by my favorite cats ever) to paper lanterns that blew in. Today it was edible mushrooms all over!! Cool! She was glad they aren't poison, her grandkids play out there. I will see if I have time to gather any.  I may grab some and toss them in my yard to spread them!
Well worth interrupting breakfast!
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When your son complains about the neighbors burning leaves.  He said " dad why don't they just rake them to the farmers field behind the house and let them compost so we don't have to smell it?  I'm sure the farmer would like the free firtilizer.  Why do the move out here and make it like it is in the city?"

This guy lives about a half a mile away.  He has burned his leaves every night for 3 weeks.  He fills over a mile of sky with his smoldering leaf smoke.

The best place to pray for a good crop is at the end of a hoe!

 
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When your nephew comes over while you are underneath the truck welding the muffler up and you don't want to be bothered.  All you have to say is " my son is almost back with a trailer load of wood, are you going to help unload it?".  He was gone in less than a minute.  This works on all but one of my nephews and for some reason I don't mind him being around.

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... when you leave the rats you trapped out on top of a tall stump for the owls to enjoy.

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Christopher Shepherd wrote:When your son complains about the neighbors burning leaves.

This guy lives about a half a mile away.  He has burned his leaves every night for 3 weeks.  He fills over a mile of sky with his smoldering leaf smoke.



I’m in pain at the thought of such a great resource just being set on fire. Don’t suppose you can pop round with a trailer and offer to take them off his hands and save yourself from the air pollution?

Forever oscillating between wondering how I can fit everything I want to grow into my tiny urban garden (hahaha I can’t) and how to make enough money to buy my dream mini farm where I can grow everything I want to grow, raise chickens and be a haven for my local pollinators and wildflower species 😁🌱🌻

 
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When you go for a walk with your family on an abandoned railroad...and spot mullein on the tracks and you end up digging some up to take home!
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A weed is in the eye of the beholder...and I behold that that is no weed!

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If you've ever done your son's chores, because he was to busy skinning muskrats.

The best place to pray for a good crop is at the end of a hoe!

 
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When you dig holes in the garden for your hunter friends to bury guts & bones in.

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When you are doing your usual read of permies jokes in the morning and some one posts a joke about bacon seeds.  I was like, yah I got three bacon seeds right now.  We have been fertilizing them with sorghum silage, dented potatoes, tomatos, peppers, beets, hay, and our old line of corn.  The bacons have grown nicely.  We plan on pickling them with salt and smoking them with apple chips mid December.  
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... when your response to armadillos digging holes in the yard every night is gathering acorns to drop into each hole before replacing the divots.

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Not sure if I have said this before, but as I see me do it, yet again...

You know you are a permie when your canning is labeled by variety name. It matters what kind of squash that is! Really does!

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You know you're a permie when...

you see someone on a riding mower cutting a three acre lawn and you think "Should that be legal?"

...all you want for your birthday is a ton of manure. But not just any manure, it's your BIRTHDAY. Goat or sheep or, wow, how about well composted rabbit manure?

...you're turning over a garden bed in the spring and unearth a toad. You apologize, looking deep into those golden eyes. Then you move the toad to the far side of the garden because there was a black snake and you don't want it to find the toad. There aren't that many toads.
 
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When your wife is still canning in November!  We harvested 2 deer and turned the roasts into tender cubed roast ready to eat in minutes.

When your mother request a tenderloin for Christmas.

When you have a backup for the smoker just in case the electric goes out.

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