Need suggestions on a different name for Paul Wheaton's "posts in the ground" technique

Below is a You Tube video where Paul explains what they do at Wheaton Labs to make posts last much longer in the ground.

"Posts in the ground" is not descriptive at all.

Do you have any suggestions on what else should we call this?

This is not an attempt to make more people watch the video, but watching it helps to paint a picture of what I am looking for:




And thank you!

Every farmer knows this, but suburbanites have been conned into buying all sorts of BS methods that will inevitably fail.

"A dry post is a happy post."

Everything flows from that.

Cheers!

I learned the hard way not to use concrete. Next time, I will follow Paul's approach:
Sinking a Post: Extra Dry, On the Rocks

"How to mix an extra-dry Martini: sink the post, hold the concrete, eat the olive."

How to make fence posts last longer.

How to make a fix for not repairing fence posts too often.

drained posts?
Dry rock bed for posts?

I can't see the video, but what's the essence of the thing, in one line?

Controlling water to preserve posts in the ground.

rock wrap, rot be gone.

Naturally preserved posts. (NPP)

Reading the suggestions so far, I can't tell what rock and concrete have to do with the thing.  And are the posts wrapped in something?

We did something similar to this technique on the Pinnacles National Monument trail crew while maintaining the 40+mi of feral pig fence surrounding it. I just use the term “rocked in”, and think I got it from my more experienced trail crew mates and leader. I have used this method at my place, and called it “rocking in” the posts in explaining it to the helpers at our Wild River Permaculture Guild work party that got 1/3 of the fence in. So far so good with the posts after 4yrs.

When we're making these as part of the Boot camp, I refer to them as "gravel socks." As in, "Whenever we put a post in the ground, we put it in a gravel sock."

Ben Zumeta wrote:We did something similar to this technique on the Pinnacles National Monument trail crew while maintaining the 40+mi of feral pig fence surrounding it. I just use the term “rocked in”, and think I got it from my more experienced trail crew mates and leader. I have used this method at my place, and called it “rocking in” the posts in explaining it to the helpers at our Wild River Permaculture Guild work party that got 1/3 of the fence in. So far so good with the posts after 4yrs.

'Dry-rock Fencing' has a nice ring to it.

Permanent Permie Post

"Post in Ground, Dry in Ground" method, aka the PIG DIG method.

Also, does this method offer enough support to not shift when building a cantilevered structure?  Thinking of cantilevered patio cover or picnic shelter.

Parched Permie Post Permanence?

Permie Posts Rock On (Dude)!

I enjoy consonance...and alliteration generally.

Hey peeps. I'm from the land down under. We don't use cement for our posts either. Learning from building earthbags and clay brick buildings, cement is nasty and it does not absorb water it just sits there. It does not breath, it's not organic. I may sound like I'm contradicting myself but we soak our posts in old car engine oil. It's part organic crude oil which comes from the ground and modified to put in cars. (Don't completely understand the whole making engine oil but not my point). Oil and water don't mix so the water will not absorbs in the wooden post. Also we have termites everywhere so the oil will also stop termites from eating the posts. We soak them and then put them straight in the ground and cover back with the soil. No probs. Mechanics pay people to get rid of their used oil. They are very happy when you come and ask for their oil free.

Wood Field Post Fix-its

Stick-In-The-Mud

It is both a noun and an action verb phrase😉

Gravel set posts

Ann Consadine wrote:Hey peeps. I'm from the land down under. We don't use cement for our posts either. Learning from building earthbags and clay brick buildings, cement is nasty and it does not absorb water it just sits there. It does not breath, it's not organic. I may sound like I'm contradicting myself but we soak our posts in old car engine oil. It's part organic crude oil which comes from the ground and modified to put in cars. (Don't completely understand the whole making engine oil but not my point). Oil and water don't mix so the water will not absorbs in the wooden post. Also we have termites everywhere so the oil will also stop termites from eating the posts. We soak them and then put them straight in the ground and cover back with the soil. No probs. Mechanics pay people to get rid of their used oil. They are very happy when you come and ask for their oil free.

That's by no means full proof. My neighbour did that. The termites were there in a couple of years.

Stephen B. Thomas wrote:When we're making these as part of the Boot camp, I refer to them as "gravel socks." As in, "Whenever we put a post in the ground, we put it in a gravel sock."

Gravel sock posts have a nice ring to it....

Postcache. (It has to win one of these times, right?)

Lets try; Stick-In-The-Ground


Too da loo

Rock set post

The lithopod post technique
[edit: er, think I mean "lithoped". It's all greek to me...]

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:"How to mix an extra-dry Martini: sink the post, hold the concrete, eat the olive."

Do you like your post shaken or stirred?

Gravel barrier?

Thanks for heads up Madeleine Innocent. Only just started doing this.

Coydon Wallham wrote:

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:"How to mix an extra-dry Martini: sink the post, hold the concrete, eat the olive."

Do you like your post shaken or stirred?

Could be the OO7 technique- if you shake (bounce?) the pole after you set it in on the first layer of rocks, you help assure they are settled into a stable underlayment to keep the pole from shifting in the future. Stirring would probably do the opposite.

Oh hey, it's the dry post.

Looks like it could be mentioned, the necessary eave length is going to change based on the roof height.  

Also, it will change based on prevailing rainy wind direction, also based on soil (clay vs sand) and season duration (wet vs frozen/dry) conditions.  Water wics significantly further in an 8 month damp clay season than it tends to in the rocky mountains...

I know Paul knows this😂 but it could also be specifically pointed out that groundwater flow might just saturate the whole foundation if it isn't a freely draining local elevation maxima.

Speaking of local elevation maxima, I've got a below grade basement window from 60 years ago I need to do something about (before it floods again 🤦)

I'm glad you posted this here! I don't usually see videos, but this is something I've wondered about for a while and I thought the video described it well, I'll be showing it to my family and checking out the rest of the channel now.

"Gravel sock" seems to me to be the most catchy but still accurate description discussed so far.