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Opalyn Rose wrote:my experience with baby blankets is that they are square (for swaddling) so I probably would not approve even if the square footage was the same or greater.  I would approve of a larger blanket with each side being 30" or more but would prefer to see it remain square.



Swaddling blankets are baby blankets, but not all baby blankets are swaddling blankets - which are typically only used for a month or two, before the babies get fed up being bound up, tightly. Other baby blankets are often much more useful as a rectangle, for cribs, car seats, strollers, etc, because a square one adds too much bulk at the sides.
 
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I don't think the blanket has to be used for a baby.  It's just we needed a name for a smaller blanket.  

If I did this BB, I would probably do a lap blanket which is very popular here for watching TV.  It would probably be 30x longer than 30.  

 
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I replaced a laptop battery yesterday.

I was wondering if this might qualify for an oddball BB In electrical, or possibly tool care, or just oddball in general?
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Old battery removed
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New battery installed
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Charging up after battery replacement
Charging up after battery replacement
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After 5 hours of use not plugged in after 1st full charge. It would only last about 30 minutes before this new battery.
After 5 hours of use not plugged in after 1st full charge. It would only last about 30 minutes before this new battery.
 
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A pro can do that in about 5 minutes so I don't think it's enough work to qualify for the minimum point value.
 
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In the woodlands care badge the different levels have plant *ft of living fence. Do these need to be contiguous? Or can I plant the approximately 300 ft around my 1/4 acre yard and then the balance in my friends yard (we live about a mile apart)? If it doesn't need to be contiguous is there a minimum size before "that's not a fence"? Since this is pep I can see Paul wanting large lengths of hedge around the borders of his properties and around ant village (even individuals ant plot) but for the average person getting into permaculture it's a lot harder to fit large lengths.
https://permies.com/wiki/126776/PEP-BB-woodland-straw-living
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It really helps if you can link to the bb you have questions about.
 
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My interpretation of the requirements as printed is it specifies a singular fence. Your 300 feet would be enough for the sand level but not the other two. You're the first to try this BB so I don't think it's ever been discussed since it was printed. Maybe someone with more background info about the intent of the BB will add more details.
 
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I wasn't involved when the woodland care stuff was created.  I'd be tempted to say that for the bigger fences (800 and 200 ft) that they could be broken up into a few segments that aren't contiguous.  But they'd need to be fairly big chunks...
 
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Different BB, different badge.
This is a recreation of a viking hand axe.
Is a hand axe= a hatchet?
The 1st picture is to show how the handle is about forearm length. The second is a better shot of the head.
So would this hand axe be for Sand sharpen hatchet or Straw sharpen one (hatchet/axe ect)

https://permies.com/wiki/105866/pep-tool-care/Sharpen-Hatchet-PEP-BB-tool
https://permies.com/wiki/127869/pep-tool-care/Sharpen-Axe-PEP-BB-tool
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Viking hand axe sheath of cardboard
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Cardboard is bad for head
Cardboard is bad for head
 
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sorry, can you link to what badge you are asking questions about?
 
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I think you could submit it for either one and it would be fine.  But not both :)  
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:I think you could submit it for either one and it would be fine.  But not both :)  


Thank you! Yeah the straw BB specifically says ANOTHER but since you can't earn straw until you get sand I wanted to know if it was "way in the future" or part of the path to getting sand
 
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In the Natural Medicine BB's that involve curing/healing things, would treating animals count? My cat fractured one of his leg bones and I was wondering if it could count.
 
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Bethany Paschall wrote:In the Natural Medicine BB's that involve curing/healing things, would treating animals count? My cat fractured one of his leg bones and I was wondering if it could count.



Can you share a link to the bb?
 
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https://permies.com/wiki/167963/pep-natural-medicine/Fracture-broken-bone-rehab-guided#1797017

Sure, here it is.
 
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That's a good question.

I expected to find clarification if it's purely human medicine or if veterinary counts here https://permies.com/wiki/108662/pep-natural-medicine/PEP-Badge-Natural-Medicine  but couldn't find it.

One problem I find is that some medicine good for humans can kill an animal and vice versa, they don't translate well.  Also humans have the advantage of communication which changes how we treat them.

There is also a section specifically for animal care https://permies.com/wiki/107858/PEP-Badge-Animal-Care

I think we need to wait for clarification.
 
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Great question Bethany!  As I read it, the Natural Medicine badge is for humans.  I copied this bit from the Natural Medicine page:

As you apply your growing skills you might want to apply them to somebody.  From here forward we will call that person your ā€œfriendā€.  

 
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Thanks, Mike and Ranson. I figured the same but wanted to check.
 
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Hi ! I was wondering if there was an oddball-woodworking section like i have seen for metalworking ? I have made all my ceilling with ruff plank that i transformed with multiple plane into beautiful tongue and groove board lindseed oiled. Or maybe just apply it in the normal oddball section ?

And double question for the pro, would my little strawball house (600 square feet) will qualify me for an iron oddbal badge ?
 
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My brother and I both built 12-foot sections of junk pole fences for the woodland care bb and we helped each other with construction (mostly holding poles secure while the other hammers nails). Could I have a reminder on how working with help goes in a BB? To clarify, each of us was responsible for on 12-foot stretch and did most of the work, the other helped with support or manpower. Thanks!
 
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Raphaƫl Blais wrote:Hi ! I was wondering if there was an oddball-woodworking section like i have seen for metalworking ? I have made all my ceilling with ruff plank that i transformed with multiple plane into beautiful tongue and groove board lindseed oiled. Or maybe just apply it in the normal oddball section ?


There isn't an oddball for Woodworking.  There is for Homesteading so that might garner more points the just putting it in the Oddball badge.

Raphaƫl Blais wrote:And double question for the pro, would my little strawball house (600 square feet) will qualify me for an iron oddbal badge ?


It would qualify for a submission to Oddball.  Not sure how many points it would garner but it should be hefty.
 
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Bethany Paschall wrote:My brother and I both built 12-foot sections of junk pole fences for the woodland care bb and we helped each other with construction (mostly holding poles secure while the other hammers nails). Could I have a reminder on how working with help goes in a BB? To clarify, each of us was responsible for on 12-foot stretch and did most of the work, the other helped with support or manpower. Thanks!


You can have help lifting things or holding them while the submitter is doing all the skilled work.  So it kind of sounds like you are possibly ok?
 
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Okay thanks, Mike!
 
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So in the "2 step stool" lumber badge ( link when not on phone) it says "no finished wood, can I finish the stool with linseed or tongue oil like in the"burn wood sign?
Raw wood>>>stool>>>oil ?
 
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Aurora House wrote:So in the "2 step stool" it says "no finished wood, can I finish the stool with linseed or tongue oil like in the"burn wood sign?


Not if you want the BB approved.
 
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You can submit the stool for a BB and then finish it after...
 
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Christopher Weeks wrote:You can submit the stool for a BB and then finish it after...


Thank you! I think I'm going to make my wood burn sign the top step in my 2 step stool, so I'll make the stool submit then burn and finish the top step.
 
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So I'm at the hugle right outside of fisher price house and the night is putting a big black censored across my picture of add urine to growing plants picture. Would you certify this picture? My phone won't flashlight and camera at same time.
Edit thanks so I've made a level 1 pee spot near Arakas so I should have cup pictures soon.
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God! It's dark!
God! It
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Any better?
Any better?
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Nope still f*ing DARK!
Nope still f*ing DARK!
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Where Paul said he would like a pee spot
Where Paul said he would like a pee spot
 
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Nope, hopefully you'll have to pee during daytime?
 
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Plant 100 cleavers showing the burs stuck to my gloves and spring new growth was said to be sufficient. Is something similar available for nettles? Cause I don't know how to save nettle seeds. Yes but unlike peas & beans that are big enough to see and obvious when you can save them my little plant was a rhizome that I got out of a road ditch.
It's going to take a long time to spread 100 rhizomes from my one start
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Aurora House wrote:Plant 100 cleavers showing the burs stuck to my gloves and spring new growth was said to be sufficient. Is something similar available for nettles? Cause I don't know how to save nettle seeds.


I'm not sure what you are asking.  nettle does go to seed and rhizomes can be transplanted
A web search provided information from hedgecombers:

 
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So this Russian olive is a valuable tree to my sister's household, it is a shade and windbreak for her house but it's on a cliff edge above a road. Can my sister do the live tree cutting BBs on the bottom 2 branches that are 6-8 ish and pulling the tree downhill? https://permies.com/wiki/99576/Felling-live-tree-chainsaw-PEP https://permies.com/wiki/99571/Drop-live-standing-tree-bow Or would cut A live tree mean ALL the main trunks near the ground so as to leave a bair stump? She would have additional complications of having to have ropes to keep it from falling in the road and pulling it back to the top after cutting anyway. Inquiring minds want to know.
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It would be so much easier to help if you could provide a link to the bb you have a question about.

 
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No, she'd have to cut the whole tree to get either of those BBs.  If it's a multi stemmed tree like this, a BB could be done on each trunk:
 
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r ranson wrote:It would be so much easier to help if you could provide a link to the bb you have a question about.



It would also be a huge help to future people who might want clarification on the bb.  
 
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Just found a post (not a BB submission) for harvesting willow branches so I added this link with info on how to harvest the bark to the Natural Medicine: Harvest...Willow Bark BB.
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:Hello SKIPpers, let's try something.  If you're looking at a BB and need clarification on a requirement, try posting in this thread to get an answer.



Super excited about the program! I have a general question about how to earn BB and badges. I see that we can choose, for example, 16 of the 22 available optional badges to complete the PEP1 program. But how many BB do we do to earn a badge? Thank you.
 
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