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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Dimensional Lumber Woodworking.

Walls work better when you can't see through them.  Unless it's a window in which case it's ok.  But generally you want your walls to be solid.  Let's put some wood on a wall!

Here's a board and batten style where as the wood shrinks it still provides coverage (lower part of photo).


Here's a simpler arrangement where rain/snow/bug/sunlight intrusion isn't as critical (upper part of photo).


To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
- cover at least 40 square feet of wall with wood
- ends of boards are attached to studs for stability
- no treated wood (or woods with glues)
- no paint, stain or oil

Provide:
  - pictures or video (no longer than 2 minutes)
       o the wood you're starting with
       o the construction partially underway
       o the finished wall
  - description of why you installed the boards the way you did
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I just finished the siding on my entry closet and hot water heater.

Why i did it- the open door of closet hit my entry door. The 2 doors went away to an.open area that may or may not get a sliding door later. Also got extra height by removing the wall. The 12" shelving will be replaced with 18" shelves.  This will help to not double stack home canned goods.

Why the way i did i- i used shiplap, installed backwards because i wanted a flat surface without gaps showing the painted wall behind it if it shrinks.

I missed the starting lumber pic but took pics of some scraps. Walls are 2ft x 8ft, 3ft x 8ft, and 4 walls 18" x 8ft

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wayne fajkus wrote:I just finished the siding on my entry closet and hot water heater.

Why i did it- the open door of closet hit my entry door. The 2 doors went away to an.open area that may or may not get a sliding door later. Also got extra height by removing the wall. The 12" shelving will be replaced with 18" shelves.  This will help to not double stack home canned goods.

Why the way i did i- i used shiplap, installed backwards because i wanted a flat surface without gaps showing the painted wall behind it if it shrinks.

I missed the starting lumber pic but took pics of some scraps. Walls are 2ft x 8ft, 3ft x 8ft, and 4 walls 18" x 8ft



That's quite an improvement.  It looks great.
 
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Part of making a micro home work for a family of four. This used to be a 280 sq ft detached garage. My dad turned it into a one room cabin years ago. Now there are four of us living in it for the time being, granted we are doing most of our cooking at the main house 100 yards away.

So, why I did this - I am enclosing what was formerly the 6x14 front porch, essentially a cement slab to add to our living space and get some of our boots and jackets out of the primary area. The South and West walls are of reclaimed polymer panels, like those used in many greenhouses and pergola roof designs. It will have some solar benefit in the winter. The North wall, behind what will be our rocket mass heater and oven, I wanted to give a different look, and I obviously didn’t need the solar utility. And I’ve had my eye on a small stack of early 1900’s toungue-in-groove siding that I can only imagine was the original siding for the original farmhouse. I will probably insulate with last year’s sheeps wool seconds, and clad the exterior with tin or whatever exterior panel I have available at the time. Up for suggestions. There are 2-foot eves on the roof, so it ought to be well protected from the elements.

I hung it groove-down, thinking it would help shed any incidental moisture, inside and out.
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Starting wood.
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Finished wall.
Finished wall.
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I paneled the inside of the rocket sauna. This is probably an edge case. I didn't get a picture of all of  the wood beforehand and I did work with one or two guys during the build. But the space is clearly larger than 40 ft^2 and many of the boards needed an extra hand to put in.

I think each of us did enough paneling on our own to qualify each of us on our own.

We set the boards at a 45 degree angle to give the structure better resistance from any twisting forces.
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Here is some of the tongue and groove boards.
Here is some of the tongue and groove boards.
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Here is the inside at the start.
Here is the inside at the start.
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Is there evidence you would except as proof?

I have a few pictures of us starting and finishing the build. I measured the total square footage of the paneling we did, it came to around 500 sq/ft.

I didn't mean to say "maybe" each of us did enough for a BB. I am sure each of us exceeded 40 sq/ft.

I just didn't want to claim the whole job as my own work.
 
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Hey Kyle, knowing it's 500 sq/ft will help the certifiers a lot.  Maybe also saying which walls you worked on and what % of the wall you did would make them happy.  For instance, wall B is 100 sq ft and you did half of it.  Or something like that.  Thanks!
 
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Added ~200 sq ft of 3/4" x 6" x 6' locally milled cedar fence boards to the inside of the unfinished workshop using finish nails. Installed horizontally to attach to wall studs. Cuts made for doors, lights, plugs, vents.

Some of the wood used stacked up against the wall (from an after pic):


Before



During (safety first)


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Not really sure what to say about why i installed them this way. They are easy to put on when they are horizontal as the bottom board support them.
The wood we used was Grand Fir we cut and processed the whole way, planing, routering. Finish work is so time consuming.
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showing before the wood went up
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All of the paneling up on the wall
All of the paneling up on the wall
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Another angle.
Another angle.
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I made a little shed to house my washing machine.  I did the sides and roof in cedar boards.  I installed them overlapping to better shed water.  behold!
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frame
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one side done
one side done
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all done
all done
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each side is 3 feet wide
each side is 3 feet wide
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and 7 feet tall
and 7 feet tall
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In winter, snow enter in my firewood shed sometimes, this will help to block it and further conserv the shed for the future. Did it with spruce wood board from a neigboors forest. The shed measure 8 feet high and 10 feet wide, so 80 square feet!
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Board load haul by bike
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Starting the project
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Mi-project
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Finished!
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I've only got siding left on my she shed! It's taken me over a year to finish, since I've learned to do everything myself.  For the siding, I'm using pallet planks because if I used new wood planks for the siding, I would literally double the cost of the entire building! So I began with pallets, pulled them or cut them apart with hammers, crowbars, and a saws-all for the stubborn nails. The wood-working people in my life all felt like I need the boards to over-lap somehow to help the walls repel water. So I used a table saw to cut the opposite corners off of each plank. In this way, they fit inside each other about 1 cm. top and bottom. It feels like its taking half my life! But when I'm finished, the she-shed will be as long-lasting as I can make it... from 2nd-hand wood (and with the limited skills I have now)

The north wall is 14 feet wide by 10 feet tall, not including the metal wainscoat. It's about 115 square feet of siding, WAY more than the required 40. I also had to finish the wall, as per BB guidelines, before turning it in. :)
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The grooves cut, on opposite corners, so the planks inter-fit
The grooves cut, on opposite corners, so the planks inter-fit
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as far as I made it up one wall while still pregnant. People didn't want me on a ladder. weird.
as far as I made it up one wall while still pregnant. People didn't want me on a ladder. weird.
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north wall done ta da!
north wall done ta da!
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Here is my submission for the Dimensional Lumber - Swanson List - Sand - Animal Care BB.

I'm at Wheaton Labs for BB20 2023.  Every time I visit, there are various improvements to The Solarium and the current project is siding.  The Boots left the North Wall (previously covered by drywall) for the BB20 attendees to cover with homegrown and cut lumber.  I used the exposed screws and marks on the drywall to identify the location of the studs.

Since there are four of us, I decided to cover just over the required amount instead of the whole wall.  

To complete this BB, I provide the following information to verify that I've met the minimum requirements:
- cover at least 40 square feet of wall with wood: 2'-6" x 16'-4" = 40.8 sq ft
- ends of boards are attached to studs for stability - see photos
- no treated wood (or woods with glues)
- no paint, stain, or oil
- description of why you installed the boards the way you did: I installed these boards horizontally because the studs are vertical.  This allows the siding to be attached to the wall every two feet.

To document the completion of the BB, I have provided the following pictures:
       o the wood you're starting with
       o the construction partially underway (one photo shows screws to verify that boards are attached properly)
       o the finished wall (including measurements)
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the wood I started with
the wood I started with
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drywalled north wall of Solarium
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a second angle of north wall
a second angle of north wall
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partially completed project
partially completed project
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partially completed showing location of screws (studs)
partially completed showing location of screws (studs)
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finished project
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height 30.5"
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width 16'-4"
width 16'-4"
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The boots left the north wall open for the BB20 event. I did the middle part of the wall.
I followed the pattern that Opalyn created and that's why it's like that!

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
- cover at least 40 square feet of wall with wood
- ends of boards are attached to studs for stability
- no treated wood (or woods with glues)
- no paint, stain or oil

Provide:
 - pictures or video (no longer than 2 minutes)
      o the wood you're starting with
      o the construction partially underway
      o the finished wall
 - description of why you installed the boards the way you did
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Installed about 45 sqft of paneling in the solarium at Wheaton Labs today. What I did on the big part of the wall was 30sf and beside the door was 15sf.  

They milled this beautiful pine on site.

I installed it this way because I was continuing the work of others, and working with the material that I had which was definitely getting scarce towards the end.  
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Wood that I’m using milled on site at Wheaton Labs
Wood that I’m using milled on site at Wheaton Labs
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Progress picture showing nailing into studs
Progress picture showing nailing into studs
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Progress picture of after I topped the door
Progress picture of after I topped the door
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Completed-blue tape shows where I started
Completed-blue tape shows where I started
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Completed-showing area beside door
Completed-showing area beside door
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This morning I installed 3/8" x 4" pine lap siding previously cut on the sawmill to the back exterior wall of the sauna at Wheaton Labs to cover the slip straw insulation and provide exterior siding.  It got up to 105 F today so I was thankful to get this done in the AM.  I had time to do more than 40 sq ft but ran out of boards and had to use the available time to saw more boards for next time.
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The materials, 3/8x4 pine.
The materials, 3/8x4 pine.
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The wall before I started.
The wall before I started.
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The tools.
The tools.
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Partially underway action shot.
Partially underway action shot.
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40 sq ft completed.
40 sq ft completed.
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Amount I added measured vertically.
Amount I added measured vertically.
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Width of wall.
Width of wall.
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After moving the skeleton of my old coop, https://permies.com/wiki/147045/pep-homesteading/Move-Outbuilding-Site-Simple-Move#2352355 , I needed to redesign and add siding to make it ready for chickens again!

I tried to make shiplap, but my fence boards were neither the same thickness, nor straight, nor true. The cups, bows, and twists refused to play nicely with my table saw. Yet I refused to be stymied.  

Instead, I took an easier path and cut 45° angles off the edge of the boards, making a poor man’s version.

I then installed them with a little (sometimes a not-so-little) gap between to allow for expansion, slight airflow, and to correct for milling errors.

Thankfully this is for chooks who couldn’t care less about aesthetics as long as it’s functional. I fall into a similar camp, though I do find rough cedar attractive.

The front wall alone is >25 square feet. Rounding down to the the nearest foot (and ignoring the triangle sections) the dimensions are:

Front wall 5’x5’ =25
Back wall: 3’tall x 5’wide =15
Full side: 3’tall x 6’wide =18
Door side: 5’tall x 2’wide =10

For a total of more than 68 square feet.

Thank you, reviewers, for all your hard work!! Let me know if you need more measuring tape pictures :)
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Siding the back walls
Siding the back walls
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Rotating to continue
Rotating to continue
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Nest box door and front wall
Nest box door and front wall
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Last board!
Last board!
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Inside
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Door side
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All siding on!
All siding on!
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Front width
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Front height
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