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PEP BB homesteading.sand.reverse - Drive a Truck and Trailer in Reverse

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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Homesteading.

In this Badge Bit you will drive a truck and trailer backwards.



Here are some related threads and articles.
 - Reverse with a Trailer
 - How to Back a Trailer
 - Reverse a Trailer like a Pro





To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - you must drive a truck and trailer backwards on a straight road for 100 feet
  - properly connect and disconnect trailer from truck
           o test that the lights are working correctly
  - any street-legal motor vehicle is acceptable

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a 2 minute video of you:
          o connecting the trailer properly
          o testing the lights
          o driving a truck and trailer backwards for at least 100 feet
          o disconnecting the trailer properly
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Ok, I was hauling stuff around today so the missus helped me video this BB.  The first time I tested the lights (hand outside the window) she was giving a thumbs up or down as I indicated which light I was testing.  As you can tell, the lights weren't working (at that time).  After backing into the parking spot, the lights were working so I showed off for a bit.

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Would a full sized van work instead of a truck?

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Since a van is harder to back than a truck my opinion is that it is acceptable. I think it meets the intent of the BB.

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Good point, I adjusted the requirements a bit.

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What if the trailer doesn't have lights connected (ie day legal but not night legal?)

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I think it needs to have lights :(

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Rob Lineberger wrote:What if the trailer doesn't have lights connected (ie day legal but not night legal?)



A handy thing to have is some of those pre-wired, magnetic lights used for pulling another vehicle. They can be used temporarily on an offroad trailer that would normally get lights torn off off-road, or carried in an emergency auto kit in case a trailer or auto light gets busted or you decide to pull or haul unusual items. Or for getting badges!

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Here’s my post for reversing a trailer for 100ft. It was more challenging than I was expecting. That’s mostly due to the fact that I had no visibility out the back of the backup vehicle.

Here’s the video:
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I backed a trailer attached to a van 100ft! The first thing I did while connecting was check the lights with Mike's assistance. Then I connected it, drove it, then disconnected it. The section of me connecting it is more sped up than the rest of the video because it took me a bit longer.

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Here is my submission for the Homesteading - Sand - Drive a Truck and Trailer in Reverse BB.

During the PTJ, a group of us got in some practice or experience in backing a trailer for 100-feet.

To document the completion of the BB, I have provided:


To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a 2-minute video of you:
          o connecting the trailer properly
          o testing the lights
          o driving a truck and trailer backward for at least 100 feet
          o disconnecting the trailer properly

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Trailer backup 100 ft straight at 2021 PTJ event at Wheaton Labs

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I drive a trailer in reverse.

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Here's a little video of me hooking up my trailer, checking the lights, backing up a bunch,  and unhooked at its new home.

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Sooooo, i understand that a car and a trailer doesn't fit the bill? I think most motor vehicule aren't easy to drive in reverse... In the wood badge, tractor and other vehicule are accepted for the reverse with the longue trailer...

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  - any street-legal motor vehicle is acceptable


A car is fine for this BB, go for it!

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Did the trailer backwards BB, hope it's good!

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We drive and pull trailers very often...drove the RV pictured in the video pulling a trailer through the mountains of Colorado all the way to Dallas, Texas.  My wife was scared, but we're alive to tell the story haha  See attached video for a 100' backup example  -

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My Submission for this BB:

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I rented a trailer to haul some material I acquired. I felt too much like a goofball to ask the rental guys to film me backing up, so I chose to do it on my own… this lead to some more challenges, namely with the order of operations.

I’ll include some pics to help explain as well but the short of it is, I had filled the truck bed as well as the trailer, and didn’t want to shimmy beside the trailer an extra 20 feet while carrying blocks, so instead of “hooking up, then backing up, then disconnecting” I disconnected, unloaded the truck, then re-hooked up, and backed into the driveway to store it overnight.

My brain was fuzzy after moving the wood and so I simply trusted the trailer wiring remained intact, as the guys at the rental place did check my lights for me before I pulled away, and they had been working. I came inside to edit and post the video, annnd realized I missed evidence of light testing… so I went back out and filmed that part.

The video is in chronological order, and also includes a turn. Hoping that’s okay for this one!


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Measuring distance from end of trailer to sidewalk
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From the end of the white car to the prior stopping point
From the end of the white car to the prior stopping point
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Dave Burton wrote:drive a truck and trailer backwards.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - you must drive a truck and trailer backwards on a straight road for 100 feet
  - properly connect and disconnect trailer from truck
           o test that the lights are working correctly
  - any street-legal motor vehicle is acceptable

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a 2 minute video of you:
          o connecting the trailer properly
          o testing the lights
          o driving a truck and trailer backwards for at least 100 feet
          o disconnecting the trailer properly



I don't have access to a trailer, so while at WL, I gave Roy a test drive. I premeasured and marked the 100ft span with sticks. The trailer jack wasn't operable so Stephen helped me safely lift the trailer on and off the hitch; thanks for the help Stephen! I hooked up the trailer tail light wiring and Stephen said that he's never seen the lights work on the trailer before so the lights were tested and they were confirmed to be dysfunctional and in need of repair.

I needed to merge and edit down over 6minutes of video:
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The weather warmed up to 34°F and I had access to the truck- BB here I come! I backed a trailer well over 100' because I forgot my tape measure 🤷‍♀️ The trailer I used was very light and short and I got it around a bend.

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