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Get Whiter Whites Without Using Chlorine or Bleach - PEP BB nest.sand.whiter

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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit, you will get whiter whites without chlorine bleach or any other toxic materials.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
   - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
   - before cleaning the whites
   - show what you're cleaning the whites with
   - progress of cleaning the whites
   - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
   - report on the cleaners/methods you used
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Taking a stab at this one. I used lemon juice and line drying in the sun. I juiced two lemons and used those instead of detergent in the washing machine. We have a side loader, I added the lemon juice directly into the drum, on top of the clothes before starting it. I see a noticeable difference between the t-shirts, but not on the underwear. Perhaps it's because the underwear was made of natural undyed cotton and was never truly white? Unknown. I'll be switching to doing laundry by hand once I get a good tub and the local horse chestnuts are back in season (great for soap).
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before, two white t-shirts and two pairs of underwear. I washed one of each on the left, along with other white things that needed washing.
before, two white t-shirts and two pairs of underwear. I washed one of each on the left, along with other white things that needed washing.
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The lemon juicing process. I juiced two lemons, filtered out the pulp and seeds with cloth shown. About a half cup of lemon juice.
The lemon juicing process. I juiced two lemons, filtered out the pulp and seeds with cloth shown. About a half cup of lemon juice.
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The wash in process.
The wash in process.
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hung up to dry, t-shirt and underwear in front.
hung up to dry, t-shirt and underwear in front.
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Sunlight for 4 hours or so in the afternoon.
Sunlight for 4 hours or so in the afternoon.
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Finished product. T-shirt looks noticeably whiter.
Finished product. T-shirt looks noticeably whiter.

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My last badge bit for my first sand badge . . . Woohoo!

I picked a large sheet towel and a small Japanese onsen towel. Both were clean but had picked up grub that hadn’t come out in the normal wash.

I followed Clean & Green method for whitening yellowed whites. I used:

1 large tote
3 tablespoons of salt
3 table spoons of citric acid
1 jar of hot water
Sunshine

I stirred the salt and acid into the water. I folded the items in the tote and poured on the solution to steep.
After 20 minutes, I hung both items out on the line in full sun. They received at least 3 hours of sun on each side.
I’m pretty please with the results. The bath sheet still has a little discolouration in the middle, so I will repeat the process after it’s next wash.
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So apparently I don't own much for white clothing! The socks and tank top are practically brand new so I used two rags to show a difference in whiteness.

Start:


Making a citric acid wash with lime juice and salt:


Rubbing with actual limes:


Sun bleaching (I was told that the snow help reflect more UV?):



Finished. I didn't notice much for the shirt or socks but for sure the rags!

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Nothing says “opportunity for a bb” like toddler pee on the couch. White couch predates parenthood—I’m reckless, but not that reckless. Anyway. Washed both cushion covers in the regular wash, then hung the “untreated” one to dry inside. The “treated” one got a wash with hydrogen peroxide and a day in the sun and came out much whiter!
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Original state
Original state
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In the washer with peroxide
In the washer with peroxide
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Sunning!
Sunning!
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Treated and untreated!
Treated and untreated!

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I do not own many truly white textiles. So this dish towel will have to do. I used lemon juice, warm water, and hydrogen peroxide, for about an hour soak. Then I put in the sun for roughly 3 hours each side.

I will say I did not get the BLAMO whiteness increase I was hoping for, however, it did a great job removing some black smudge stains that were prolific on the towel. I can see a whiteness increase, but I think I need to revisit the formula down the road.
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Before the treatment, notice the black marks all over the towel.
Before the treatment, notice the black marks all over the towel.
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Ingredients
Ingredients
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Warm water
Warm water
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Soaking
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Hour sun bath
Hour sun bath
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Final result. Notice the decreased amount of black stains.
Final result. Notice the decreased amount of black stains.
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Ok so I correcting the error I made from my first submission, using a white shirt I was able to find from my old work bag. I used the exact same system as last time, hydrogen peroxide and lemon juice, with hot water. I put the shirt in the solution and let it soak for an hour. Then I let sit in the sun for roughly 2 hours each side. Results: shirt came out extremely white and the stains were removed!
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Lemon juice and hydrogen peroxide
Lemon juice and hydrogen peroxide
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Water
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Shirt before wash.
Shirt before wash.
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In the solution you go!
In the solution you go!
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Sun
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After treatment. So white!
After treatment. So white!
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I got a whiter white with lemon juice, salt, and sunshine! I was really amazed by these results. Both the dress I treated and the "control group" white T-shirt were 100% cotton. The dress was dingy, arm-pit stained, and rust-spotted. I hand-washed it and the T-shirt with bar-form dish soap, using rinse water from a previous load of laundry to save on water. Then, I hung the T-shirt to dry and soaked the dress with some other stained garments in cool water, the juice of three lemons, and a bunch of salt. I rubbed the most visible stains with the juiced lemons, then left it to soak for about 45 more minutes. Then I put it in the sun for three or four hours. Voila! The dress was a brighter white, and many of the stains disappeared completely, with only a few faint spots remaining. (The bonus garments were still badly stained, but they were worse off to begin with and I am not too disappointed about it.)
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Clothes to be whitened
Clothes to be whitened
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Yellow marks
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Particularly dirty areas before whitening
Particularly dirty areas before whitening
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Washing
Washing
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Salt
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Lemon juice
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Sunning
Sunning
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Comparison
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Whitened item
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Much whiter
Much whiter

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It was so fun to hand wash these whites and to go through the whole process. I'm not sure what exactly I expected, but I was surprised and excited  when I saw the difference in the shirt. I had tried to spot treat it with another method and had put it through the wash twice, and it hadn't done any good, but a few lemons, salt, and several hours in the sun later and here we are!
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Whew! Long day, but I have treated this undershirt and slip with a half cup of hydrogen peroxide twice and it is out drying in the sun.
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Untreated
Untreated
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My handy-dandy germ-killer
My handy-dandy germ-killer
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In the sink. Treatment in process
In the sink. Treatment in process
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All done, now the sun and wind to the rest.
All done, now the sun and wind to the rest.

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I honestly did not expect this to work as well as it did! I used 2/3 cup of lemon juice and ~3 tbsp salt and soaked with hot water for 30 minutes, then wrang dry and rubbed/squeezed a bit more lemon juice directly on the more stained parts before hanging up in the sun. ~2 hours each side in the sun, but I would have preferred more. I hung them outside again the next day, but I don't think it made a huge difference.
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before of cleaning rags
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soaking in lemon juice, salt, and hot water
soaking in lemon juice, salt, and hot water
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more lemon!
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hanging in the sun
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after of cleaning rags
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after of towels
after of towels

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- before cleaning the whites
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  - progress of cleaning the whites
  - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
  - report on the cleaners/methods you used


- before cleaning the whites
  - show what you're cleaning the whites with
  - progress of cleaning the whites
  - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
  - report on the cleaners/methods you used

I decided to do this one "experiment" style.

I took an old but clean white cloth and compared it with a new white envelope for color.

I split the cloth into 3 equal pieces, and soaked each in a different whitening solution:

Hot water & Hydrogen Peroxide
Hot water & White Vinegar
Hot water & Lemon Juice

Soaked for 20 minutes, then rinsed thoroughly and dried.

Compared dried cloth with the same white envelope.   What do you think?    In person it looks like LEMON JUICE was the winner.  

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Original strips with whiteners and white envelope
Original strips with whiteners and white envelope
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Soaking in respective hot water solutions for 20 mins
Soaking in respective hot water solutions for 20 mins
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drying!
drying!
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Finished whites with same envelope..
Finished whites with same envelope..
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another "finished" angle
another "finished" angle

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I have to say I'm blown away by how effective this was. I was not expecting it to work so well.

My undershirts were experiencing some severe yellowing. It seemed like a good opportunity to try out this technique.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
  - before cleaning the whites (Picture 1 and 8)
  - show what you're cleaning the whites with (Pictures 2, 3, and 4)
  - progress of cleaning the whites (Pictures 4, 5, 6, and 7)
  - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before) (Picture 9)
  - report on the cleaners/methods you used (Shimanto Bushukan citrus juice and sea salt)

These are my six undershirts. I used the whiter whites without bleach method on #3 and #5.
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1)

I cut some citrus from my garden in half and juiced them.
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I applied the citrus juice and salt directly onto the articles in a wash basin.
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Then I added some water and agitated them.
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Then I simply added them to our normal laundry load.

They soaked up UV rays in the sun for only 4 hours or so and came back much whiter.
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Before and After
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I'm curious here whether Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) should be considered a toxic material? It's a confusing case as it is toxic to living tissues and cells, hence the strict controls on the concentration/dilution available to purchase, but it reacts quickly to produce water (H2O) and oxygen (O) which are both essential for life.

I notice that Bethany and Heather have used it for this BB so it appears that is is acceptable. I think it fails the edible cleaners test though!

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There's actually edible hydrogen peroxide (the stuff you buy in the store has aditives that are not edible, but you can buy hydrogen peroxide is free from it, like), and it's food-grade.

Here's the stuff I bought: Essential Oxygen Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide 3%, Natural Cleaner, Refill, 32 Fl Oz

food grade hydrogen peroxide

It's also mentioned as a cleaner in Raven Ranson's Clean with Cleaners You Can Eat book, and Paul wrote the forward for that book, so I'm going to assume it has the Paul Stamp of Approval.

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I'm dismayed that, since I stopped using bleach, my white towels are slowly turning grey. :-/ In this bb, I used 3 different methods for whitening them back up. First, the two towels, no special work. "Before." The towel on the right got my normal wash with oxyclean. The left towel was soaked in lemon juice and hydrogen peroxide. Not impressed. I then soaked it in washing soda and vinegar. Still not impressed. So I hung it on the back of a chair in the sun. It ate the finish off my chair and stained the towel brown! Ug! Then, I tried hydrogen peroxide mixed with dawn dish soap to remove the brown stain and washed it normally. Finally, its a smidge whiter. I'm not a fan of natural whitening.
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2 plain towels
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soaking once
soaking once
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nothing different
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soaking and washing with stain-remover treatment
soaking and washing with stain-remover treatment
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the new, brown stain
the new, brown stain
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a teensy bit whiter
a teensy bit whiter

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Well, I don't have a lot of white stuff, so I guess I have to show off my undies. Only they're not very off-color. But here's what I've done: I got two clean pairs out of the laundry closet, I picked one to "treat" with vinegar, steam, and sun. After about eight hours in the sun (spread across two days), I rinsed them thoroughly -- until they no longer smelled of vinegar and then hung them to dry overnight. (They now smell like vinegar again, so I'll need to wash them more seriously.)
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Undies!
Undies!
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Drenched in white vinegar.
Drenched in white vinegar.
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Still damp, steamed.
Still damp, steamed.
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Catching afternoon sun.
Catching afternoon sun.
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Catching sun the next morning.
Catching sun the next morning.
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All dry. I took the pic in the same place and time of day, but two days apart and the light characteristics are different. Hopefully the contrast still shows good enough.
All dry. I took the pic in the same place and time of day, but two days apart and the light characteristics are different. Hopefully the contrast still shows good enough.
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- before cleaning the whites:

Before pic shows several "white" items including two white tank tops and several dish towels/cloths. I think the tank on the right was washed with blue jeans at some point so it's looking particularly dingy. These came from a "clean" laundry basket. I usually don't bother to get them super white since it's dishcloths and under clothes.

- show what you're cleaning the whites with:

I soaked the whites in a hydrogen peroxide solution.

- progress of cleaning the whites:

Pics three and four show clothes soaking in solution and drying in the sun respectively.

- finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)

Pics 5 and 6 show the finished load with the treated clothes on the right and the control group on the left. I'm not thoroughly pleased with the tank top though it looks a little better. The white dishcloth and the dish towel are noticeably whiter though and I was able to get some of the stains off.

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I soaked them in hydrogen peroxide for a couple of hours and dried them in the sun for the afternoon.
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Whiter cloths
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Comparison with white envelope
Comparison with white envelope

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I used citrus because I saw it here, but I am not completely convinced. Will use oxygen bleach in the future as I have had good results with it. I think there is a difference, though
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Sample pieces
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Washing soda and lemon Juice
Washing soda and lemon Juice
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soaking in lemon juice
soaking in lemon juice
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Left two vertical rows are not bleached
Left two vertical rows are not bleached

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So I use two different bathmats, and I treated the fluffy one with a mix of vinegar and baking soda. I took a really nice video of it, but that type of file is not supported on here?! first I use my biodegradable, Dr. Bronner’s and a natural plant-based softener. The end result was that the fluffy bathroom mat that I treated looks much better than it did and the patterned one is still dirty from muddy farm feet
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Dirty bath mats
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My washing detergent
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During washing
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Vinegar and baking soda
Vinegar and baking soda
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Fluffy one clean patterned one still dirty
Fluffy one clean patterned one still dirty
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To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures:
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I used a white T-shirt, 2 pairs of socks, and a pillowcase. I discovered 1 sock had a hole in the heel, so I discarded it before finishing the process. We've had the pillowcase for so long that I wasn't sure if it was originally white or off-white.

My husband doesn't seem to care if his undergarments are stained, so I've never treated his shirts and socks, nor his pillowcase.

I started with a baking soda paste on the worst of the stains (the soles of the socks and armpits of the shirt). I rinsed them out and soaked all of the items for a few hours in lime juice, salt, and water. After washing them like normal, I hung them to dry all day on the fence. I worked on the shirt more after that by putting lemon juice directly on the armpits for a few hours before washing again. The armpits are more stained than I had hoped they would be, but I didn't know what to hope for with how long those stains had already been there.

All of the items show an improvement in the whiteness, but the best result is the smell. My husband's deodorant leaves a strong scent on his shirts no matter how I've washed them (regular detergent, vinegar, oxyclean, etc.) Between the lemon juice and sunlight, the fragrance is gone!

The photos show before and after of the items, with the "after" photo on top and the "before" photo on bottom. All photos were taken in full sun during the middle of the day to hopefully get similar lighting.
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After and Before - Socks and t-shirt
After and Before - Socks and t-shirt
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After and Before - Pillowcase and 1 sock
After and Before - Pillowcase and 1 sock
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Baking soda paste on the clothes
Baking soda paste on the clothes
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Limes before juicing for the juice/salt soak
Limes before juicing for the juice/salt soak
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Lemon juice directly on armpit stains
Lemon juice directly on armpit stains
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Clothes drying in the sun
Clothes drying in the sun

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I used someone else’s recipe on here of 2/3 cup lemon juice and 3 tbs salt soak in hot water. Then left in the sun to dry.
I scrubbed with a brush after soaking.
Looks a little better. The kids socks were more improved than mine but mine might be too set since they’re older.
I left the right most (bottom) sock for comparison.
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Hot water
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Lemon juice
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Salt (one more Tbs than shown)
Salt (one more Tbs than shown)
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Before
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Sun drying
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After
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Comparison photo
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I used a pair of dirty socks.  One into hot water and vinegar, the other into hot water and hydrogen peroxide.  Let them soak and then agitated to get the dirt out.  Then hung in the sun for more than 6 hours.  Both did okay, but probably not well enough to wear anywhere out.  Will try lemon and salt next time we buy lemons. The hydrogen peroxide one is noticeably whiter.
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I whitened an old stained white t-shirt with hydrogen peroxide and water.  
I soaked the t-shirt in the hydrogen peroxide and water.
When it was done you can tell it's whiter because the stains, which didn't come out...
are more noticeable.


Old stained t-shirt.  The stains in the upper middle are faded.


Soaking t-shirt in hot water and Hydrogen Peroxide


Hydrogen Peroxide


Cleaner T-Shirt...you can tell it's whiter because the stains, which didn't come out...are more noticeable.

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My first company work shirts were white...lol.  I looked constantly filthy as I work outside in the dirt.  We tried orange shirts but they were fugly.  We've settled on light grey...dirt and stains are less noticable.  😁
I'm comparing 2 old white tshirts.  The first one needs whitening.  The other does, too, but isn't as bad.
I added a pic of both shirts in the washer...it isn't super clear but I think you can see them rotating in a washing machine.
I whitened an old stained white t-shirt with hydrogen peroxide and water.  
I soaked the t-shirt in the hydrogen peroxide and water.
When it was done you can tell it's whiter because the stains, which didn't come out...
are more noticeable.


First old stained t-shirt before washing.  The stains in the upper middle are faded.


Second old t-shirt before washing.


Soaking t-shirt in hot water and Hydrogen Peroxide


Hydrogen Peroxide


Cleaner first T-Shirt...you can tell it's whiter because the stains, which didn't come out...are more noticeable.


Second washed T-Shirt

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Hard to see but t-shirts washing in washing machine
Hard to see but t-shirts washing in washing machine

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To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
  - before cleaning the whites
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  - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
  - report on the cleaners/methods you used

I decided to utilize two white undershirts for this BB.

The shirt of the left received a soaking treatment with Peroxide and Hot water before being hand agitated in a Hot water bath for a while. The shirt on the right just received the hot water bath. They both were rinsed, ringed, and then hung up on my shower door to dry. It is freezing out, or otherwise I would utilize the sun.
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Two shirts prior to treatment
Two shirts prior to treatment
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Peroxide and Hot Water
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Hot Water agitation
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I took two similarly dingy rags and whitened one in a solution of organic white vinegar and hot water. I soaked it overnight and then dried it in the sun. It’s not bright white but it’s noticeably whiter than the other.
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I don't know that it comes across in the photos, but the t-shirt I lemon-bleached *was* a bit brighter afterwards.  I did it twice to make sure.
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Control shirt on left; shirt to be bleached on right.
Control shirt on left; shirt to be bleached on right.
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Lemon juice and salt.
Lemon juice and salt.
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Drying in low-level sunlight.
Drying in low-level sunlight.
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Still not the same shade of white as the control shirt, yet a bit brighter than before.
Still not the same shade of white as the control shirt, yet a bit brighter than before.

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Dave Burton wrote:This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit, you will get whiter whites without chlorine bleach or any other toxic materials.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
   - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
   - before cleaning the whites
   - show what you're cleaning the whites with
   - progress of cleaning the whites
   - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
   - report on the cleaners/methods you used

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I soaked one of the rags in hot water and white vinegar overnight, then left it in the sun to dry.
I soaked one of the rags in hot water and white vinegar overnight, then left it in the sun to dry.
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Soaking in white vinegar
Soaking in white vinegar
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Whitened cloth
Whitened cloth
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Dave Burton wrote:This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit, you will get whiter whites without chlorine bleach or any other toxic materials.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
   - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
   - before cleaning the whites
   - show what you're cleaning the whites with
   - progress of cleaning the whites
   - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
   - report on the cleaners/methods you used

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I started with two discolored rags. I clean one with boiling water and vinegar and let it soak overnight. Then l left it out in the sun to dry.
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Vinegar as a whitener
Vinegar as a whitener
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Sun drying and whitening
Sun drying and whitening
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After
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Very dingy pillow cover for a formed foam pillow. I soaked it in super washing soda and then added it to the regular laundry which was done by hand today. Then it sat in the sun for most of the day. I'm impressed with the improvement but will try lemon juice next time.
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soaking in washing soda
soaking in washing soda
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detergent
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before treatment
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after treatment and sun soak
after treatment and sun soak
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see the improvement?
see the improvement?

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I tried whitening some socks, the whitened one doesn’t look perfect, but looks Better than it had before. I used salt, lemon juice, and the sun to whiten it.
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Before
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Lemon juice and salt
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Soaking.
Soaking.
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The sock in the sun.
The sock in the sun.
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The whitened sock. ( the circled one is the sock that got treated.)
The whitened sock. ( the circled one is the sock that got treated.)
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I whitened 2 t-shirts, a handkerchief, and a kitchen towel. I soaked them all overnight in a bucket of hot water with 3 tbsp citric acid. Then I washed them in the washing machine and let them dry in the sun for 4 hours. I would say they're noticeably whiter and most of the stains are out too!
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Dave Burton wrote:In this Badge Bit, you will get whiter whites without chlorine bleach or any other toxic materials.

To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
   - Maybe use a pair of white things that are equally dingy (socks? two white shirts?), wash them both, then do your white treatment on one to show an improvement

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide proof of the following with pictures (or a video < 2 mins long):
   - before cleaning the whites
   - show what you're cleaning the whites with
   - progress of cleaning the whites
   - finished cleaning the whites (must look noticeably whiter than they were before)
   - report on the cleaners/methods you used



I tested a citric acid solution and a hydrogen peroxide solution on previously laundered socks. I used strong concentrations for 2 hrs of soaking time. 1 tbsp of citric acid OR hydrogen peroxide to 1.5c water. I then laid the socks out on snow to sun for 2 hrs, then hung them in the sun to dry. The sock on the left of the photo is always the citric acid solution and the sock on the right is the hydrogen peroxide solution. If there's a photo with a sock in the center, then it's the control - without any additional whitening solution added to it.

I tried taking photos in a few different lighting environments because I don't think that the photo effectively shows the improvement/contrast well. However, in-person, the hydrogen peroxide solution was way more effective. I actually think that the snow photo (with the wet socks after the 2hrs in the solution) does the best job showing the contrast but that photo doesn't include the control sock. The citric acid sock appears to have a yellow hue whereas the hydrogen peroxide sock has a blue hue which appears whiter.
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This is my attempt at getting whiter whites. I used a pair of socks After a normal wash. The right sock was my test sock.  The first round I used hydrogen peroxide. I couldn’t see a difference after several hours.  The Second round I scrubbed it with a lemon and then forgot about it overnight. The next morning I rinsed it out and hung it on the line to dry in the sun. These are the results on the right sock. Slightly less gray and brighter white.
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My pair of socks after typical washing. Right sock is the test sock
My pair of socks after typical washing. Right sock is the test sock
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First try with hydrogen peroxide
First try with hydrogen peroxide
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Second try scrubbed with a lemon
Second try scrubbed with a lemon
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on the line
on the line
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Finished. Right sock is the test sock.
Finished. Right sock is the test sock.

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After washing and drying these shirts, I noticed they were dingy. I took one and soaked/agitated it in hot water with the juice of a lemon, then dried it in sunshine.
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Dingy shirts before whitening
Dingy shirts before whitening
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I added lemon and washed in a 5-gallon bucket with a modified plunger.
I added lemon and washed in a 5-gallon bucket with a modified plunger.
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Hung in the sunshine for a few hours
Hung in the sunshine for a few hours
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It worked! Compare un-lemonified on the left to the citrused on the right.
It worked! Compare un-lemonified on the left to the citrused on the right.

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Ok, this may be a fail, but we have to start where we are ...

I decided my mop heads were dingy instead of white.  Here's the 4 mop heads I'm testing:  2 with blue stripe and 2 plain.  I washed them by had, each pair had one of each type.

I washed them by had in the sink with soap.  Pair 3 had citric acid added in the form of an old bottle of lime juice I found in my storage pantry.  Very expired.  But still acidic.  

I set the 2 pair of mop heads out in the sun for a day.  For kicks, I added some lime juice to the conventional washer load of whites I was doing with the remaining mop heads in it.

After sun drying, you couldn't really tell which was which.  The lime ones may have been slightly cleaner.

But here's where the fail comes in.  The washer load of mop heads with lime juice was noticeably whiter than normal and than all of my handwashing.  So this just proves that I am sub-standard at hand laundering.  I'll go over and try that badge bit next maybe!


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Mop heads before test. Then I mopped the floors with them so they were even grungier.
Mop heads before test. Then I mopped the floors with them so they were even grungier.
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Adding hot water to the dirty pairs of mop heads.
Adding hot water to the dirty pairs of mop heads.
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Adding soap.
Adding soap.
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Getting some good suds.
Getting some good suds.
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This is the jar of expired lime juice.
This is the jar of expired lime juice.
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Here are the final pictures after sun drying. Top was the machine-wash. Next pair down was the lime, then finally the ordinary wash.
Here are the final pictures after sun drying. Top was the machine-wash. Next pair down was the lime, then finally the ordinary wash.

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Note: On my phone I couldn’t tell the difference. But on my iPad I can definitely see the difference.  Good job.

 
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